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we're here with our friendly

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neighborhood co-host Chris O'Brien who

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was now labeled as friendly and

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neighborhood but he's not in my

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neighborhood

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that and we both been in the Deep Freeze

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this week boy yeah it got down to the

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30s in Arizona where I am which is the

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Phoenix area which is rather unusual

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because normally here the temperature

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even in the winter can be 70 degrees but

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now it's 44 all right you broke some

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records we don't - it's a I know the

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show's coming on you know about five

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days after we actually tape it but but

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last week was by far the coldest I've

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ever experienced it blow you know the

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emoji on rim I mean it was in single

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digits here on blow Sedona so much for

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global warming well you know part of

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what global warming is by the way our

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guest today Stan Friedman does not

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believe in global warming he's co-author

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of a book called science was wrong where

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he disproves that maybe we'll mention it

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in passing although we did that when we

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had Paul Kimball as the co-host and we

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had episode with him in Kathleen Martin

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on the show a few months back but part

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of global warming is allegedly I say

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allegedly okay is allegedly extreme

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climate changes right climate extremes

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it's not just being warm or warmer

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there you go yes say the superorganism

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we live on is a self-regulating entity

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right and if it gets sick and tired of

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us well it's gonna say bye-bye humans

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someone else has to take over you're

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getting a bar fight with an asteroid

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yeah that could happen or you know right

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now we might be if Stan Freedman is

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right just you know replace where they

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come over and have some entertainment

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there you go I like that idea there's a

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lot of entertaining people on this

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planet and we strive to be entertainment

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but we also strive as I think you will

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agree we strive to separate the signal

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from the noise let's talk about noise

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okay now yeah I don't know about this

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one but I've made an effort to try to

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get to the bottom of it without much

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luck there was a letter that was

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received by a number of people claiming

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that butch witkowski who's a high

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muckety-muck in Pennsylvania's MUFON

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organization that he has some serious

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legal problems now butch was a guest on

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the podcast in January of 2010 and he

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seemed to have a pretty straight up

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story a lot of interesting information

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but then we get this letter and I'm

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going to just tell you a couple of the

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things that were charged and the reason

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I am is because I asked in the interest

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of being fair and balanced I wrote to

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butch I tried to call him and I said

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would you answer any of this and he says

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no he's taking his research private he

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will not answer anything now I don't

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know about you know now these charges

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supposedly emanate from the

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investigations of a private investigator

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who's involved in UFO research of course

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that doesn't mean they're all correct

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but you know I think someone with

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charges of this nature ought to be

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answering them we're talking about

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charges such as that butch Witkowski was

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a convicted felon involving issues of

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fraud but he was never a police officer

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he wasn't a Hamas

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investigator as he claimed and that his

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experience in the military in the

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Marines was very brief and not shall we

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say terribly Pleasant or shall we say

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honorable so you know we have a lot of

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serious claims here a lot of serious

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charges that I think have to be answered

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charges here I don't claim to be

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anything as I said in the previous

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episode I am a professor of ignorance I

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don't claim to know anything I'm just a

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talk show host I'm curious about the

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power and Rommel I've been around for a

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long time and I hope I have some life

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experiences that may be of benefit to

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our listeners I also am supremely

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skeptical so I hope been asking the

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right questions will help provide

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illumination so we have this problem

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Butch Witkowski is being accused of

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being a fraud okay yeah so is the issue

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hey you know if I was accused of being a

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fraud I would want to take the

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opportunity of answering the charges

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yeah I I mean at least put the rumors to

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rest if that's what they are I think a

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non-response is to Adam on to agreeing

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or putting some sort of relevance to the

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claims and I you know I hope that these

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rumors aren't true for Butch's sake and

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if they aren't I think he should very

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quickly put put these rumors to rest now

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I gather the people who MUFON are kind

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of taking a hands-off approach here

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they're not touching it I try to get an

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official comment from Clifford Clift who

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is the international director who will

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be on the power cast in the very near

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future as a guest but it sounds to me

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that he doesn't want to touch this and

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certainly you know if someone deceived

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them

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the MUFON leadership you know I can

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understand that you know I understand

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you know look it's not his fault we were

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all fooled we had him on the power cast

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we thought he was a straight shooter and

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he had a pretty good story and as I said

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the door is open if butch wants to come

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on the power cast or just write me or

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talk to me he has my phone number and

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discuss the issues discuss what these

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charges mean and

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provide some information or evidence and

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they're false we want to clear the air

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I'm about to say you know this guy is

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deceitful you know well I was in his

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court and so it really is but I had to

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mention it because it's in our forums

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therefore it's a public issue there are

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for tens of thousands of people have

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seen what claims where do you go I hope

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this is not another bill Nell incident

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remember bill Nell he's still a kid by

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the way we had bill now who lasted some

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30 minutes on the power cast with myself

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and David we were on the show and we

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asked him some very simple questions and

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in episode classic episode in 30 minutes

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Nell bailed we had Frank Warren who has

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been investigating him and evidently his

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crimes I guess aren't serious enough for

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the authorities the federal authorities

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to really go after him you know they're

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looking into it but you know I guess

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people who were involved in crazy feels

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like the paranormal even if they pirate

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videos even if they deceive people as to

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who they are and what they've done it

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doesn't matter to them so there you go

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the Rodney Dangerfield

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that's syndrome we get no respect no

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respect at all there you go we have

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someone on the show this week who does

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get respect oh I'll tell you gets a lot

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of respect probably I call man elder

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statesman of the UFO field because he's

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been doing it for so long not that we

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always agree with what Stanton Friedman

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says but you know he has a lot of

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interesting things to say a lot of deep

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investigations he's been there he's

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still around he started off as a

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scientist a real scientist a nuclear

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physicist so he's not somebody who's

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unaware of science he's worked on a lot

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of projects that unfortunately I guess

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didn't come to fruition such as stuff to

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improve

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energy you know we sure need that now

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you know especially with the price of

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gas going up to over three dollars a

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gallon they're talking of 350 375 before

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long so maybe Stanton Friedman as the

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elder statesman in ufology should go

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back as a nuclear physicist and see if

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he can do something about it boy we

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could use the help that's for sure I

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don't know if I could afford to keep

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filling my hog truck at 5 bucks a gallon

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get yourself a Hyundai yeah there you go

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that's it get yourself a Hyundai a basic

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Hyundai which is not very expensive but

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we're not going to mention that for very

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much longer except to say they also have

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a sister brand called Kia you get those

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cars for what ten fifteen thousand

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dollars I get thirty five forty miles a

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gallon and we're gonna have to do that

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you know because there is an energy

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crisis we might disagree about global

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warming but certainly there's an energy

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crisis but the topic of this show this

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episode is not about the energy crisis

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unless it relates to UFOs it's about all

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the work that Stanton Friedman has done

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my co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm gene

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after a few months we have Stanton T

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Friedman I call him one of the deans of

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UFO research he's been doing it for so

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long our co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm

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gene steinberger in the para cast and

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the last time we had your on Stanton is

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with Kathleen Martin we were talking to

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you about this book called science was

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wrong yes without going much into that

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because we're covering largely UFOs in

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the session do you think that the fact

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that we've had a pretty cold nasty

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winter is more proof that global warming

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as a fantasy in your mind well you don't

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need that when you have reviewed the

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evidence put forth by the warmest

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whatever you want to call them I can

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think of other terms you say that it's

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that the global warming thing is

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nonsense

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certainly in English they've given a

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very hard time to the Meteorological

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Office which I said on several occasions

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worries about tough winters and lots of

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snow are a thing of the past you don't

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need to worry about it so that's the

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people who were stuck at Heathrow they

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weren't planning for it because you know

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we don't get snow snow is a thing of the

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past

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yeah the winter has certainly there

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plenty of people that around the country

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who have found it's already been a harsh

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winter but we have to separate and I

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keep trying to get people to do this the

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two different questions one is there's a

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climate change and yes by definition it

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changes now no two winters are the same

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no two summers are the same so yeah and

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there are trends we tend to forget that

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the earth goes through natural cycles

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11-year cycles and 60-year cycles and El

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Nino and you know there's a whole bunch

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of things going on that vary from year

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to year

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the second question is if there is a

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warming period over a certain period of

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time is that caused by man and

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especially is it caused by evil co2 and

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that's the question that's easy to

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answer you know what all those other

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things we're sorting out now that we can

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make measurements of what goes on from

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above the atmosphere or what goes on

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with the Sun and we're finding that the

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so-called solar constant isn't constant

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at all the output of the Sun the evil

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co2 is where the nonsense comes in and

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you'd never know it from listening to

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these guys but co2 isn't the biggest

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greenhouse gas water vapor is by a great

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deal and then there's methane there's a

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bunch of others secondly we wanted some

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people want to classify co2 as a

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pollutant well you better tell all the

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farmers of the world but you're going to

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take away what's necessary for plant

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growth if you take away co2 so it's not

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a pollutant as a matter of fact at the

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level where to go a bit higher and it

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has been higher in the past without dire

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consequences then you know you're

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goofing up you're really fouling things

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up if you say well we just gotta get rid

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of co2 so we're taking credit for a man

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being all-powerful if he would only cut

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back to then Evol co2 emissions

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everything would be great and you know

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that's hogwash plain and simple and I've

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looked at a lot of the data I read

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several books on print with the other

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point of view and it's funny how the

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presses finally come around to

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recognizing oh there isn't a total

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agreement that you know co2 is even when

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we need to stop it and there's not a

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part of this and that's the political

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part the financial part to listen to

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some of these Al Gore's Gore writes I

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don't know what the right term

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Gore's

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[Music]

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yanari all right I'll have the Western

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countries the advanced nations should

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have to spend hundreds of billions of

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dollars giving it to the poor nations

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because we produce so much co2 and we

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are evil and we should subsidize

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alternate forms of power production like

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solar and wind and you know that's a lot

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of poppycock for one thing the only

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reason people built all these wind

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towers and solar places is because of

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subsidies and Germany and England and

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other places have cut back in the

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subsidies and they stopped building them

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because we're paying more for power

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produced that way somebody has to pay

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the bill they're also here where oil is

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not infinite it's a finite source we

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need other sources of energy don't we I

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mean you're a nuclear there's a question

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sure that's a different question and

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sure and if you look around you'll find

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that they were building many more

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nuclear power plants are in the process

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of being built and at some point we'll

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get to the point of using breeder

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reactors which keeps the benefit of

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uranium way up there there's no question

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that it would be nice to get rid of

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pollution it would be nice to get rid of

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the bad things that come out of power

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plants nobody's denying that the kicker

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is that we have enough we're finding new

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is my right the whole question of

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natural gas has changed drastically in

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the last three years because there shale

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gas and there's a real boom and the

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price is coming down we're talking

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economics here and so that we should

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replace these with nuclear power plants

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that we should use solar where it's

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appropriate when were it's appropriate

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of course

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no question about that and look I live

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in California boy doesn't off a lot of

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sunshine

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oh yeah it gets a little warm down there

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115 in the summer on a bad day what

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blows my mind is you're flying to

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Phoenix you look down you don't see any

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solar panels but to me it's ludicrous so

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it just doesn't it doesn't make any

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sense and well they're expensive it's

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one of the reasons

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that tax breaks there's all sorts of

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incentives here to to go with a a

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greener sort of electrical situation but

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one of the things that I wanted to point

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out before we get off this climate

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change quick conversation is a lot of

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people forget that when we have a

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massive volcanic eruption the amount of

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gases and carbon and everything else is

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spewed into the air dwarfs 'into the

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total output of the industrial

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revolution I mean when Pinatubo went and

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some of these larger ash volcanoes go I

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mean it Dwarfs what humans have put out

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in the last time you mean man doesn't

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control everything right so anyway I

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think it's you know the Gauri's or it's

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it's more of a form of a of a belief

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system in or in you know religion really

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at this point and I think it's it's it's

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a reaction to the to the oil company's

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stranglehold on the industrialized

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nations and there's a lot of I think

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societal and political elements that are

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involved in these conversations but but

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we are going to be talking about other

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things today aren't we Jane oh yes we

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have Stanton Friedman here not to talk

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about global warming although I wanted

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to mention it just because of the

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extreme nature of the weather and all

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that stuff and certainly that was

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important but actually had some flurries

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in the Phoenix area you know what

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happens in a place like this you get

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even a couple of sprinkles of snow

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everybody goes crazy they're not used to

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it

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so something unless they're coming from

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the east from the snow Belt states

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whatever if they live here and

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experience that what happens very simple

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the cars just go off the road there are

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tremendous numbers of accidents but

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let's not have an accident today let's

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just focus on UFOs and what's happening

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in the UFO field our guest well you know

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right anyway we'll do that we've done

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that on the power cast every so often in

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nearly five years and

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we're not against doing that but in the

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interests of information Stan Friedman

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joins us our co-host is Chris O'Brien

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I'm gene Steinberg you're in the para

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[Music]

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the timing is just perfect how we do

611
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that Stanton basically Chris and I work

612
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as two arms on the same being with two

613
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heads riding no no no we have been oh we

614
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did a show with antonio nuñez down a

615
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genius actually one of my early shows i

616
00:27:47,549 --> 00:27:44,740
think this is about my what 38 or 39

617
00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:47,559
show you Jane we're almost 40 yes and

618
00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:49,809
you know we give you a gold watch if you

619
00:27:56,430 --> 00:27:52,620
get to 72 okay

620
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,440
survive the Dean of ufology well you

621
00:28:00,480 --> 00:27:58,480
know I think this is more than a gold

622
00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:00,490
watch you know he deserves many gold

623
00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:02,190
watches and now with gold being worth

624
00:28:07,950 --> 00:28:05,289
$1,400 an ounce it's gonna be expensive

625
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:07,960
to buy that gold watch stand hey let me

626
00:28:12,299 --> 00:28:09,850
throw something at you about that okay

627
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:12,309
I'm reading recent I used to use as an

628
00:28:18,090 --> 00:28:14,529
example what the question about UFOs is

629
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,100
not are all UFOs alien spacecraft the

630
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:20,559
question is are any I say after all I

631
00:28:25,139 --> 00:28:22,960
used to say gold is worth mining if

632
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there's a half ounce of gold per ton of

633
00:28:29,159 --> 00:28:27,970
ore well that's in the old days I was

634
00:28:32,639 --> 00:28:29,169
reading recently you can get

635
00:28:37,529 --> 00:28:32,649
economically useful returns getting a

636
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:37,539
gram of gold per ton of ore well and you

637
00:28:41,789 --> 00:28:39,730
know well a gram is worth about 30 40

638
00:28:43,139 --> 00:28:41,799
bucks so you know if you know what

639
00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:43,149
you're doing you're moving you're around

640
00:28:46,769 --> 00:28:44,740
and the chemicals that you use to

641
00:28:48,740 --> 00:28:46,779
extract the gold and so forth but but

642
00:28:51,539 --> 00:28:48,750
that's the point about you know if UFOs

643
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:51,549
what a why care if 80 percent of

644
00:28:59,389 --> 00:28:56,529
sightings can be explained so what you

645
00:29:03,120 --> 00:28:59,399
take the gold

646
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:03,130
exactly so are the UFOs here to get some

647
00:29:07,860 --> 00:29:06,130
gold y-you know that's not as dumb a

648
00:29:09,629 --> 00:29:07,870
question as you might have intended I

649
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:09,639
didn't expect it to be maybe half

650
00:29:13,289 --> 00:29:11,740
serious but well that's what

651
00:29:17,610 --> 00:29:13,299
such-and-such ins whole thing's

652
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:17,620
predicated on that metal location normal

653
00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:19,690
question motivation why did large

654
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:22,870
numbers of Americans go west young man

655
00:29:31,230 --> 00:29:27,250
in 18-49 and to California and to Alaska

656
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:31,240
and 1898 and to Australia after that it

657
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:33,250
wasn't to have dinner with the Indians

658
00:29:37,270 --> 00:29:35,010
to start a new Thanksgiving the

659
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:37,280
appreciation night or whatever

660
00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:42,890
that's for gold what I shock people by

661
00:29:47,020 --> 00:29:44,840
saying you know the earth is the densest

662
00:29:49,090 --> 00:29:47,030
planet in the solar system

663
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:49,100
I mean the people let's probably true to

664
00:29:52,990 --> 00:29:51,410
but the earth itself a cubic foot of

665
00:29:56,590 --> 00:29:53,000
earth weighs more than a cubic foot of

666
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:56,600
any other planet Saturn is so light if

667
00:30:00,280 --> 00:29:58,010
you had a big enough cup of water you

668
00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:00,290
can float Saturn on it with a specific

669
00:30:07,890 --> 00:30:04,550
gravity water is won gold is 19

670
00:30:12,390 --> 00:30:07,900
they say heavy is LED malarkey 11th only

671
00:30:14,620 --> 00:30:12,400
LEDs on the 11.3 but we do have the

672
00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:14,630
impact of that is that we have more

673
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:17,150
heavy metals here and heavy metals are

674
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:19,970
rare any other words be relatively rare

675
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:22,640
because it takes a while for them to go

676
00:30:27,250 --> 00:30:25,130
through supernovae here and over there

677
00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:27,260
super over someplace else you got to

678
00:30:31,870 --> 00:30:29,630
build up from hydrogen and you get to

679
00:30:33,580 --> 00:30:31,880
the high atomic numbers high density

680
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:33,590
materials and you got to be around for a

681
00:30:40,930 --> 00:30:35,630
while so when you have things like

682
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:40,940
rhenium osmium platinum rhodium tungsten

683
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:43,850
gold uranium these are all very heavy

684
00:30:49,870 --> 00:30:46,490
metals and they're worth one heck of a

685
00:30:51,940 --> 00:30:49,880
lot of money to us and they have certain

686
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:51,950
special properties some of them are very

687
00:30:57,370 --> 00:30:53,450
high melting very high strength

688
00:31:00,250 --> 00:30:57,380
materials resistant to oxidation so you

689
00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:00,260
know I can't we put a gold it is worth

690
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:03,350
an enormous amount of money you don't

691
00:31:10,110 --> 00:31:06,310
need something huge is what I'm saying I

692
00:31:12,610 --> 00:31:10,120
it may very well be that they're also

693
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:12,620
robbing no mining that sounds much

694
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:15,200
better the asteroids which are lots of

695
00:31:20,770 --> 00:31:17,690
iron and nickel the bottoms of the

696
00:31:25,210 --> 00:31:20,780
oceans have lots of minerals sometimes

697
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:25,220
in very almost pure forms we don't mind

698
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:27,890
them we should kobold and a whole bunch

699
00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:29,450
of other metals down there

700
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:31,700
they're almost like nuggets but of

701
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:33,170
course we use the bottom of the ocean

702
00:31:37,150 --> 00:31:34,910
for hiding nuclear submarines which have

703
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:37,160
nuclear weapons on board and ready to

704
00:31:42,220 --> 00:31:39,770
respond if somebody sends one the

705
00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:42,230
direction of the United States there are

706
00:31:47,050 --> 00:31:44,990
diamonds for example off the coast of

707
00:31:48,669 --> 00:31:47,060
Africa that washed in through the rivers

708
00:31:50,140 --> 00:31:48,679
from the rivers you know there are

709
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:50,150
plenty of reports I don't know whether

710
00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:50,480
you

711
00:31:55,930 --> 00:31:52,790
Carl fight down or not talking about

712
00:31:59,409 --> 00:31:55,940
unidentified submerged objects there are

713
00:32:01,330 --> 00:31:59,419
plenty of reports of column vehicles for

714
00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:01,340
want of a better word zipping around

715
00:32:06,730 --> 00:32:03,230
under the water and some of them coming

716
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:06,740
out of the water and flying maybe they

717
00:32:11,530 --> 00:32:08,210
were scooping up the goodies from the

718
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:11,540
bottom of the ocean and you know I also

719
00:32:17,260 --> 00:32:13,730
shocked people is you know what uranium

720
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:17,270
was used for 100 years ago no Stan what

721
00:32:23,049 --> 00:32:20,210
we weren't making atomic bombs back then

722
00:32:25,390 --> 00:32:23,059
no it was used as a yellow glaze for

723
00:32:29,470 --> 00:32:25,400
table pottery that's illegal now

724
00:32:31,930 --> 00:32:29,480
incidentally a fast question here now

725
00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:31,940
I'm the popcorn thriller independent

726
00:32:37,650 --> 00:32:34,040
state the one thing about here is that

727
00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:37,660
basically it was about this race of

728
00:32:43,299 --> 00:32:40,460
creatures who basically brought their

729
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:43,309
entire civilization with them took over

730
00:32:47,950 --> 00:32:46,250
a planet to of course basically exploit

731
00:32:50,530 --> 00:32:47,960
their natural resources the question

732
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:50,540
being of course here is so if we have

733
00:32:54,850 --> 00:32:52,880
this race or one or more races of

734
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:54,860
creatures here from other worlds are

735
00:32:59,289 --> 00:32:57,110
they going back and forth or are they

736
00:33:02,200 --> 00:32:59,299
bringing their entire civilization here

737
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:02,210
to this galaxy to this universe to this

738
00:33:07,030 --> 00:33:04,960
solar system that is powered whatever

739
00:33:09,159 --> 00:33:07,040
yeah I'm talking about our local

740
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:09,169
galactic neighborhood within 55

741
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:10,850
light-years there's a couple thousand

742
00:33:16,539 --> 00:33:14,090
stars that's enough reach for me I don't

743
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:16,549
see any indication of that I do see an

744
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:20,330
indication of space carriers the analogy

745
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:24,650
I use is we have huge aircraft carriers

746
00:33:27,970 --> 00:33:26,480
the Navy does and several countries have

747
00:33:31,539 --> 00:33:27,980
them not just the United States

748
00:33:33,850 --> 00:33:31,549
these are nuclear-powered mind you there

749
00:33:37,710 --> 00:33:33,860
are no what a quarter mile long almost

750
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:37,720
something like that they carry 75 little

751
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:40,970
lynard kerosene powered airplanes which

752
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:43,250
don't do well on the water but do fine

753
00:33:47,860 --> 00:33:45,200
in the air where the aircraft doesn't

754
00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:47,870
move but the interesting thing is of

755
00:33:54,370 --> 00:33:49,790
course that the nuclear-powered carrier

756
00:33:56,890 --> 00:33:54,380
can operate for 18 years without

757
00:33:58,810 --> 00:33:56,900
refueling in other words it's an

758
00:34:00,399 --> 00:33:58,820
entirely different propulsion system

759
00:34:02,409 --> 00:34:00,409
than is used by the airplanes that it

760
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:02,419
carries so if you look at the UFO scene

761
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:03,110
we know

762
00:34:07,780 --> 00:34:05,150
that there are I'll call a motherships

763
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:07,790
that maybe that sounds more something or

764
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:11,570
other than space carriers but so it

765
00:34:15,099 --> 00:34:13,129
makes sense that between the stars you

766
00:34:17,530 --> 00:34:15,109
have the space carriers which carry a

767
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:17,540
whole bunch of little earth excursion

768
00:34:21,460 --> 00:34:19,970
modules as I like to call them nobody

769
00:34:23,139 --> 00:34:21,470
else cause some vent but I think of the

770
00:34:25,810 --> 00:34:23,149
lunar excursion module

771
00:34:30,369 --> 00:34:25,820
you know the business end of that 365

772
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:30,379
foot 12 Saturn 5 vehicle is a little old

773
00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:34,850
command much let me get down to it I and

774
00:34:39,129 --> 00:34:37,460
they work it doesn't really have a

775
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:39,139
propulsion system on it we take

776
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:41,810
advantage of Mother Nature once you take

777
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:44,450
off you know he throws a rocket away it

778
00:34:48,010 --> 00:34:46,490
should take off from the moon and you

779
00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:48,020
got to be smart you got to get the

780
00:34:51,970 --> 00:34:49,369
direction right when you're coming back

781
00:34:54,849 --> 00:34:51,980
into the atmosphere but you got to

782
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,859
essentially different systems so we have

783
00:35:00,849 --> 00:34:57,680
reports of people seeing little craft

784
00:35:02,770 --> 00:35:00,859
coming out of these huge monsters I

785
00:35:05,590 --> 00:35:02,780
don't think we're dealing with them

786
00:35:07,540 --> 00:35:05,600
moving their civilizations here it may

787
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:07,550
be you know they've done something wrong

788
00:35:12,070 --> 00:35:09,920
they're giving duties two weeks nearer

789
00:35:15,849 --> 00:35:12,080
that punishment to last a lifetime you

790
00:35:20,830 --> 00:35:15,859
know who knows but I think it's a more

791
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:20,840
important reason for them being here if

792
00:35:26,650 --> 00:35:23,450
you will I make only one assumption

793
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:26,660
about every advanced civilization it's

794
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:28,609
concerned about its own survival and

795
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,490
security so it seems to be a universal

796
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:34,160
everybody we know that thing that case

797
00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:36,050
you have to keep tabs on the primitives

798
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:38,180
in the neighborhood but only close tabs

799
00:35:42,730 --> 00:35:40,160
on those primitives to show signs of

800
00:35:44,170 --> 00:35:42,740
being able to bother you and if you go

801
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:44,180
down through history for say the last

802
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:45,530
2,000 years

803
00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:47,810
there aren't big differences in the

804
00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:51,020
technology yeah okay sailing ships it

805
00:35:55,330 --> 00:35:53,390
took three years for Magellan ship to go

806
00:35:59,020 --> 00:35:55,340
around the planet and there's Jules

807
00:36:01,960 --> 00:35:59,030
Verne talking about 80 days and how we

808
00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:01,970
have the spacecraft that go around in 90

809
00:36:06,820 --> 00:36:04,550
minutes but the point is that at the end

810
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:06,830
of World War two there were three

811
00:36:11,290 --> 00:36:09,530
obvious signs so any aliens who've been

812
00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:11,300
watching how this climate change after

813
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:12,540
1900

814
00:36:17,150 --> 00:36:14,310
remember the first flight wasn't until

815
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:17,160
1903 all over 112 feet

816
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not exactly a high-power we didn't know

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about DNA we didn't know about the atom

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the neutron wasn't even discovering till

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1932 we were good at killing people but

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we didn't know a lot about how the

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universe operating but then comes World

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War two where people through a lot of

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money at advanced research and

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development mainly in better ways to

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kill people I know I kill our sponsors

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because they're waiting to have their

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say okay we have Stanton Friedman

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hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

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listening to the Peres Cass

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[Music]

929
00:41:33,979 --> 00:41:30,869
we have Stanton T Friedman and we're

930
00:41:35,749 --> 00:41:33,989
talking about why they might want to

931
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:35,759
come here to see what we're doing

932
00:41:39,259 --> 00:41:37,410
Chris O'Brien's the co-host I'm Jean

933
00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:39,269
Steinberg you're in the power cast so

934
00:41:44,359 --> 00:41:41,940
therefore we start developing all this

935
00:41:47,059 --> 00:41:44,369
technology particularly the German

936
00:41:50,479 --> 00:41:47,069
scientists as we all know and they would

937
00:41:53,269 --> 00:41:50,489
have paid attention but the big time the

938
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:53,279
big change came with the war and after

939
00:41:57,700 --> 00:41:55,170
the war remember there wasn't any radar

940
00:41:59,809 --> 00:41:57,710
around before the world war 2 started

941
00:42:04,729 --> 00:41:59,819
Americans seem to think world war 2

942
00:42:06,799 --> 00:42:04,739
started on December 7th 1941 sorry I

943
00:42:10,099 --> 00:42:06,809
live in Canada the Europeans and

944
00:42:12,999 --> 00:42:10,109
Canadians were involved in 1939 at least

945
00:42:15,739 --> 00:42:13,009
well that's because we're very

946
00:42:17,930 --> 00:42:15,749
jingoistic here in the United States we

947
00:42:21,049 --> 00:42:17,940
like to think that we are the beginning

948
00:42:23,779 --> 00:42:21,059
and end of civilization maybe the animal

949
00:42:25,819 --> 00:42:23,789
now let's talk about that part but

950
00:42:29,059 --> 00:42:25,829
anyway there were three signs at the end

951
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,069
of the war that sewn these idiot

952
00:42:33,890 --> 00:42:31,200
earthlings and I say that and people

953
00:42:37,009 --> 00:42:33,900
raised an eyebrow or two I say look we

954
00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:37,019
killed 60 million of our own kind we

955
00:42:44,359 --> 00:42:41,190
destroyed 1,700 cities is it unfair for

956
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:44,369
me to say idiot Earthlings anyway there

957
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,170
were three signs by the end of the war

958
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:48,720
that soon these idiots would be able to

959
00:42:54,289 --> 00:42:52,079
move out the first was atomic bombs the

960
00:42:57,799 --> 00:42:54,299
amount of energy contained in a pound of

961
00:43:01,009 --> 00:42:57,809
uranium is vastly greater than you know

962
00:43:02,499 --> 00:43:01,019
in kerosene or whatever TNT or anything

963
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:02,509
like that

964
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:07,890
secondly we have Rockets v2 rockets at

965
00:43:12,799 --> 00:43:09,450
the Germans developed they were on their

966
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:12,809
way to a v3 you know the next age up and

967
00:43:16,910 --> 00:43:14,970
they weren't used at deliver mail from

968
00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:16,920
Germany to England although people have

969
00:43:20,839 --> 00:43:18,900
proposed using rockets for that purpose

970
00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:20,849
but they were used for killing

971
00:43:25,479 --> 00:43:23,670
destruction and the third thing was the

972
00:43:28,999 --> 00:43:25,489
beginning of the electronics revolution

973
00:43:30,289 --> 00:43:29,009
radar was the first big step with a lot

974
00:43:32,589 --> 00:43:30,299
of money at then it didn't take long

975
00:43:35,660 --> 00:43:32,599
after the war before we went to

976
00:43:37,009 --> 00:43:35,670
miniaturization and transistors and you

977
00:43:39,859 --> 00:43:37,019
know everything that followed after that

978
00:43:40,650 --> 00:43:39,869
computers all that stuff okay

979
00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:40,660
isn't it

980
00:43:46,740 --> 00:43:43,150
amazing that the only place in the

981
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:46,750
entire world in July 1947 where he could

982
00:43:51,870 --> 00:43:48,609
study all three of these technologies

983
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:51,880
well as southeastern New Mexico first

984
00:43:56,279 --> 00:43:54,910
atomic bomb was a Trinity site on the

985
00:43:58,260 --> 00:43:56,289
grounds of the white sand missile

986
00:44:00,510 --> 00:43:58,270
missile range which is where we were

987
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:00,520
testing the captured German v2 s we got

988
00:44:05,130 --> 00:44:03,369
a whole boatload of them and where we

989
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:05,140
had our best radar to track those we

990
00:44:09,299 --> 00:44:06,970
chose because sometimes they went the

991
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:09,309
wrong way very embarrassing when a

992
00:44:12,980 --> 00:44:11,260
couple wound up in Mexico you know

993
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:12,990
they're supposed to go north not south

994
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:17,650
so what I'm saying is that I think the

995
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:20,049
best word I'd use for reasons for alien

996
00:44:26,339 --> 00:44:23,440
coming here is to quarantine us no

997
00:44:28,829 --> 00:44:26,349
civilization out there would want a

998
00:44:31,470 --> 00:44:28,839
society like ours which can't get its

999
00:44:34,410 --> 00:44:31,480
act together which this year will spend

1000
00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:34,420
over a trillion dollars on things

1001
00:44:41,069 --> 00:44:38,619
military and on every single day this

1002
00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:41,079
year 30,000 children will died

1003
00:44:44,029 --> 00:44:43,150
needlessly a preventable disease and

1004
00:44:47,069 --> 00:44:44,039
starvation

1005
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:47,079
that's a weird planet and nobody out

1006
00:44:53,309 --> 00:44:50,710
there would want us out there so I think

1007
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:53,319
there's another part of this too every

1008
00:44:59,150 --> 00:44:55,930
advanced civilization will know that

1009
00:45:03,240 --> 00:44:59,160
there can be natural catastrophes a

1010
00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:03,250
supernova for example or a little old

1011
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:05,710
asteroid comes crashing down beats the

1012
00:45:11,010 --> 00:45:08,529
heck out of the planet call it nuclear

1013
00:45:12,690 --> 00:45:11,020
winter without the nuclear yeah the

1014
00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:12,700
dinosaurs were here and we're powerful

1015
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:14,230
and here anymore

1016
00:45:19,740 --> 00:45:16,960
quite possibly big probably because an

1017
00:45:22,339 --> 00:45:19,750
asteroid came and darken the sky and if

1018
00:45:24,859 --> 00:45:22,349
nothing's growing for a year the

1019
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:24,869
dinosaurs don't live very long

1020
00:45:30,539 --> 00:45:28,000
so what I'm getting at is you can think

1021
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:30,549
of a dozens of reasons for graduate

1022
00:45:33,630 --> 00:45:31,930
students to come here that do their

1023
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:33,640
thesis work on the development of our

1024
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:36,250
primitive Society there's a chapter in

1025
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,490
flying saucers in science in which I

1026
00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:41,440
list over 20 reasons for coming to

1027
00:45:45,450 --> 00:45:43,270
Planet Earth well I'm going to ask you

1028
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:45,460
one question here for one serious

1029
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:47,650
question that is a specter in this room

1030
00:45:53,370 --> 00:45:50,529
which is of course abductions because it

1031
00:45:54,330 --> 00:45:53,380
seemed to be quite a few if you listen

1032
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:54,340
to Budd Hopkins

1033
00:45:59,580 --> 00:45:57,040
and David Jacobs for example yeah I'm

1034
00:46:00,930 --> 00:45:59,590
sure they're doing this right and left

1035
00:46:04,110 --> 00:46:00,940
loads and loads of people are being

1036
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:04,120
abducted Jacobs feels they're creating a

1037
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:06,490
hybrid race yeah so where does that

1038
00:46:12,140 --> 00:46:09,760
theory of the graduate students coming

1039
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:12,150
to earth how does that fit in with

1040
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:15,730
abductions especially extended prolonged

1041
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:18,130
abductions with lots of people well I

1042
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:19,810
don't know about extended prolonged

1043
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:22,090
objections with lots of people but I do

1044
00:46:26,580 --> 00:46:23,710
know of cases like the Betty and Barney

1045
00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:26,590
Hill case which is discussed and of

1046
00:46:30,030 --> 00:46:28,630
course in the book captured by Kathleen

1047
00:46:31,950 --> 00:46:30,040
Barden and myself

1048
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:31,960
I think the abductions fit very well

1049
00:46:36,810 --> 00:46:33,970
within the notion of grad students

1050
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:36,820
they've got a job to do we we send out

1051
00:46:43,410 --> 00:46:41,440
guys explorers to the north you know put

1052
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:43,420
a little attached a little radio device

1053
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:45,910
to the polar bears so would you believe

1054
00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:48,880
it sends signals to a satellite which

1055
00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:51,430
sends signals back to some researcher

1056
00:46:56,310 --> 00:46:52,990
often a nice warm place

1057
00:46:58,500 --> 00:46:56,320
we're abducting animals and we catch and

1058
00:47:00,840 --> 00:46:58,510
release that's what we call it up here

1059
00:47:05,060 --> 00:47:00,850
the fisherman has a policy some places

1060
00:47:08,610 --> 00:47:05,070
and remember we are a very very diverse

1061
00:47:11,850 --> 00:47:08,620
species on planet very the question I'd

1062
00:47:15,740 --> 00:47:11,860
ask you here is how many animals or how

1063
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:15,750
many humans a zt1 to capture and release

1064
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,730
well I don't know I have not talked to

1065
00:47:22,170 --> 00:47:20,800
the commanders of that division but I'll

1066
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:22,180
tell you something when I was in high

1067
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,030
school very long time ago I cut up a

1068
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:27,760
frog and everybody else in high school

1069
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:29,950
biology cut up a frog and in other

1070
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:33,610
schools other places load your frogs

1071
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:35,410
being cut up there here how do you need

1072
00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:36,730
to cut up before you know something

1073
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:39,030
about a frog was a teaching experience

1074
00:47:44,460 --> 00:47:42,370
it wasn't a massacred so we're frauds

1075
00:47:45,060 --> 00:47:44,470
just not being cut up or if we are being

1076
00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:45,070
cut up

1077
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:48,100
we're being reassembled well remember to

1078
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:50,800
that now we can determine a great deal

1079
00:47:55,350 --> 00:47:53,770
about DNA for example if I had said that

1080
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:55,360
60 years ago you'd say what are you

1081
00:48:00,330 --> 00:47:57,970
talking about well it's DNA you know

1082
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:00,340
there wasn't known and we certainly

1083
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:02,650
didn't know about how to analyze it I

1084
00:48:07,579 --> 00:48:05,050
mean I'm in awe of the fact that you can

1085
00:48:10,579 --> 00:48:07,589
take a cigarette somebody is smoked

1086
00:48:12,859 --> 00:48:10,589
take the button and get enough DNA from

1087
00:48:15,799 --> 00:48:12,869
the saliva that was on the cigarette to

1088
00:48:18,170 --> 00:48:15,809
identify that person that's truly

1089
00:48:19,989 --> 00:48:18,180
remarkable and if I'd send that sixty

1090
00:48:23,209 --> 00:48:19,999
years ago you just said this guy is

1091
00:48:25,309 --> 00:48:23,219
certifiable Lock them up someplace nice

1092
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:25,319
well now of course our popular culture

1093
00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:28,650
we have CSI we have the various we still

1094
00:48:32,930 --> 00:48:30,660
have law and order a series where they

1095
00:48:34,759 --> 00:48:32,940
take the DNA and they know everything

1096
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:34,769
about people yeah well what I'm saying

1097
00:48:38,739 --> 00:48:37,170
is aliens presumably know a lot more

1098
00:48:42,349 --> 00:48:38,749
than we do but what if they are looking

1099
00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:42,359
for certain characteristics which they

1100
00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:45,420
can input into maybe they're planning on

1101
00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:47,849
setting up a colony someplace they need

1102
00:48:51,709 --> 00:48:50,190
certain characteristics let's see we

1103
00:48:53,209 --> 00:48:51,719
need somebody who's smart who can

1104
00:48:56,569 --> 00:48:53,219
breathe this kind of air instead of this

1105
00:48:59,420 --> 00:48:56,579
kind of atmosphere etc etc who knows

1106
00:49:02,690 --> 00:48:59,430
what their hybridizing for but you would

1107
00:49:05,479 --> 00:49:02,700
think that hybridization is possible I'm

1108
00:49:07,609 --> 00:49:05,489
sure it's possible whether it should be

1109
00:49:09,859 --> 00:49:07,619
done or not you know what maybe you know

1110
00:49:12,349 --> 00:49:09,869
it may well be that this is the devil's

1111
00:49:14,479 --> 00:49:12,359
island of this corner of the galaxy they

1112
00:49:16,339 --> 00:49:14,489
Duncan all the bad boys and girls here

1113
00:49:19,729 --> 00:49:16,349
and they're looking for that nasty gene

1114
00:49:23,150 --> 00:49:19,739
how come these idiots you know are so

1115
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:23,160
nasty to each other you know it's kind

1116
00:49:27,049 --> 00:49:24,569
of funny when you go to Australia they

1117
00:49:28,609 --> 00:49:27,059
take great pride in that many of the

1118
00:49:32,450 --> 00:49:28,619
ancestors of the people who were there

1119
00:49:35,870 --> 00:49:32,460
now we're criminals well they were many

1120
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:35,880
of them were debtors prison people but

1121
00:49:41,180 --> 00:49:38,430
they take pride in that so the bad boys

1122
00:49:43,279 --> 00:49:41,190
and girls were left there and you know

1123
00:49:47,059 --> 00:49:43,289
haven't got a civilization not many

1124
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:47,069
people with big country we don't know

1125
00:49:52,670 --> 00:49:50,400
what all they're doing here and absence

1126
00:49:53,749 --> 00:49:52,680
of evidence is not evidence for absence

1127
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:53,759
in other ways the fact that we don't

1128
00:49:57,019 --> 00:49:55,410
know what the purpose is I mean there is

1129
00:49:59,329 --> 00:49:57,029
no perfect no we understand that we'd

1130
00:50:01,789 --> 00:49:59,339
understand how you know certainly we

1131
00:50:03,620 --> 00:50:01,799
don't understand how an alien might

1132
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:03,630
react because we're dealing with the

1133
00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:05,609
totally different species we don't know

1134
00:50:12,370 --> 00:50:09,150
really what their mindsets might be what

1135
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:12,380
their sets of morals their morality

1136
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:15,089
might be I mean one of the reasons you

1137
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:15,970
know you

1138
00:50:20,609 --> 00:50:18,310
talking about their morality one of the

1139
00:50:23,130 --> 00:50:20,619
reasons we've heard a lot about Robert

1140
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:23,140
Hastings and all the nukes and UFOs you

1141
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:27,910
know what people forget is that if we

1142
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:30,160
foul up the planet they may not be able

1143
00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:34,090
to steal the goodies anymore so we'd be

1144
00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:36,550
missing their hunting territory if you

1145
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:39,580
will their prospecting land so they have

1146
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:42,930
it may have an enlightened self-interest

1147
00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:45,730
and you know there may be many companies

1148
00:50:50,609 --> 00:50:47,590
just as we're setting up new species of

1149
00:50:56,010 --> 00:50:50,619
tomatoes and potatoes and genetically

1150
00:50:59,310 --> 00:50:56,020
modified stuff increasing the yields but

1151
00:51:01,890 --> 00:50:59,320
how beautiful the fruit or vegetable is

1152
00:51:03,870 --> 00:51:01,900
all this kind of stuff a genetic

1153
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:03,880
modification is one way of doing that

1154
00:51:09,450 --> 00:51:07,330
again if I had said that years ago

1155
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,460
oh you mean taking sperm from a big bowl

1156
00:51:14,510 --> 00:51:11,440
and then setting up a whole herd of

1157
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:14,520
prized cattle well it can be a lot more

1158
00:51:21,089 --> 00:51:17,410
complicated than that and we've been

1159
00:51:23,099 --> 00:51:21,099
doing that for quite a while so we don't

1160
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:23,109
know what all is going on or what's

1161
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:24,730
behind it and we certainly don't know

1162
00:51:30,210 --> 00:51:27,609
what our government knows we do know

1163
00:51:32,970 --> 00:51:30,220
that no government on this planet wants

1164
00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:32,980
to give up power I think you'd agree

1165
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:35,470
with that wouldn't you guys that's a

1166
00:51:39,150 --> 00:51:37,089
good point where we can say that we have

1167
00:51:40,859 --> 00:51:39,160
Stanton T Friedman on the show the

1168
00:51:44,930 --> 00:51:40,869
co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm gene

1169
00:51:49,590 --> 00:51:44,940
Steinberg you're in the para cast

1170
00:51:54,190 --> 00:51:52,240
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1184
00:52:23,140 --> 00:52:21,620
hi this is Ted Anderson have you ever

1185
00:52:24,670 --> 00:52:23,150
wondered why banks stockbrokers

1186
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:24,680
investment advisors won't talk about

1187
00:52:29,050 --> 00:52:26,570
gold IRAs they've been available since

1188
00:52:30,820 --> 00:52:29,060
1986 yet the financial industry won't

1189
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:30,830
recognize the value of gold for your

1190
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:31,490
retirement

1191
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:33,410
gold has outperformed paper investments

1192
00:53:05,759 --> 00:52:35,570
yet no word about IRAs if you would like

1193
00:53:10,209 --> 00:53:08,620
this is theoretically our number two of

1194
00:53:14,439 --> 00:53:10,219
the power cast our guests Stanton T

1195
00:53:18,459 --> 00:53:14,449
Friedman and we're catching up on UFOs a

1196
00:53:20,349 --> 00:53:18,469
state of UFO knowledge research etc the

1197
00:53:22,420 --> 00:53:20,359
co-hosts Chris O'Brien I'm gene

1198
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:22,430
Steinberg you're in the power cast and

1199
00:53:27,279 --> 00:53:24,559
before Chris takes over with a bunch of

1200
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:27,289
questions including questions that are

1201
00:53:33,729 --> 00:53:30,410
being asked in our own forums I'm gonna

1202
00:53:36,249 --> 00:53:33,739
ask you to stand about 2010 in the UFO

1203
00:53:38,259 --> 00:53:36,259
field do you think that such events is

1204
00:53:41,049 --> 00:53:38,269
the publication of Leslie Kane's book

1205
00:53:42,910 --> 00:53:41,059
with it becoming a best-seller do you

1206
00:53:45,219 --> 00:53:42,920
think that's helping more and more

1207
00:53:48,579 --> 00:53:45,229
people take the subject and the research

1208
00:53:52,660 --> 00:53:48,589
seriously yeah I mean look I've been

1209
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:52,670
lecturing for 43 44 years this year I've

1210
00:53:57,039 --> 00:53:54,529
only had a lemon hecklers in over 700

1211
00:53:58,900 --> 00:53:57,049
lectures and two of them were drunk

1212
00:54:01,719 --> 00:53:58,910
so people have already been taking this

1213
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:01,729
subject seriously but yes I think

1214
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:05,599
Leslie's book the nukes and UFOs press

1215
00:54:09,579 --> 00:54:07,729
conference and the accompanying material

1216
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:09,589
in the press I think these are good

1217
00:54:14,529 --> 00:54:12,410
things yes I do and I think they're

1218
00:54:16,209 --> 00:54:14,539
moving us in the right direction it's

1219
00:54:17,439 --> 00:54:16,219
gonna take a while I'll give you another

1220
00:54:21,759 --> 00:54:17,449
something you probably don't know about

1221
00:54:26,739 --> 00:54:21,769
them later this month January 23rd 24th

1222
00:54:29,859 --> 00:54:26,749
25th in Riyadh Saudi Arabia which is a

1223
00:54:32,829 --> 00:54:29,869
heck of a long way from even further for

1224
00:54:35,169 --> 00:54:32,839
you I'm in New Brunswick Canada for

1225
00:54:37,660 --> 00:54:35,179
people who wonder about such things

1226
00:54:39,849 --> 00:54:37,670
other times on the east of the eastern

1227
00:54:41,799 --> 00:54:39,859
time zone Riyadh's a lot for the reason

1228
00:54:45,849 --> 00:54:41,809
that anyway there will be the fifth

1229
00:54:48,009 --> 00:54:45,859
annual global competitiveness forum with

1230
00:54:49,809 --> 00:54:48,019
all kinds of I mean Bill Gates was at

1231
00:54:53,319 --> 00:54:49,819
the first one and all kinds of other

1232
00:54:56,679 --> 00:54:53,329
people and this year I will be one of

1233
00:55:00,419 --> 00:54:56,689
five people in a panel innovation and

1234
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:00,429
UFOs the admission to this conference

1235
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:04,729
four thousand dollars now that's a sign

1236
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:07,130
of recognition that maybe there's

1237
00:55:11,769 --> 00:55:09,650
something going on here I'll tell you

1238
00:55:16,029 --> 00:55:11,779
the other people michio kaku

1239
00:55:16,540 --> 00:55:16,039
dr. Jacques Vallee Nick Pope myself and

1240
00:55:19,390 --> 00:55:16,550
an air

1241
00:55:21,070 --> 00:55:19,400
scholar who I haven't been able to find

1242
00:55:24,610 --> 00:55:21,080
out anything useful except these mixed

1243
00:55:28,330 --> 00:55:24,620
up with the UN and he's a scientist and

1244
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:28,340
we will have 75 minutes to do a panel

1245
00:55:33,790 --> 00:55:30,890
there are a whole bunch of panels is 120

1246
00:55:37,210 --> 00:55:33,800
some speakers last year Tony Blair was a

1247
00:55:40,180 --> 00:55:37,220
speaker this year Jean Creek TN who was

1248
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:40,190
a prime minister of Canada for a number

1249
00:55:45,130 --> 00:55:42,650
of years will be one of the panelists

1250
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:45,140
the head of Disney all kinds of it's a

1251
00:55:51,820 --> 00:55:47,510
real all-star thing I am honored to be

1252
00:55:54,790 --> 00:55:51,830
there and when a group like that decides

1253
00:55:57,130 --> 00:55:54,800
to include a topic like this and you

1254
00:55:59,410 --> 00:55:57,140
know somebody is doing some thinking

1255
00:56:03,100 --> 00:55:59,420
this is an official Saudi Arabian

1256
00:56:04,540 --> 00:56:03,110
government sponsored event and I'm

1257
00:56:05,830 --> 00:56:04,550
looking forward to it partly because

1258
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:05,840
it's going to be a lot warmer there than

1259
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:12,880
congratulations yeah and I say it not to

1260
00:56:17,740 --> 00:56:14,450
brag about me because I have no idea

1261
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:17,750
what led to my invitation but to say

1262
00:56:21,850 --> 00:56:20,000
that it's a very high-powered group when

1263
00:56:23,830 --> 00:56:21,860
I look at the list of speakers and men

1264
00:56:26,410 --> 00:56:23,840
and women from all over the world and

1265
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:26,420
that Bill Gates was in that first group

1266
00:56:31,090 --> 00:56:28,910
of speakers and so forth but it does

1267
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:31,100
mean some people are thinking you know

1268
00:56:38,380 --> 00:56:34,910
out of the box if you will and I think

1269
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:38,390
more will happen I think I'm I'm hopeful

1270
00:56:43,930 --> 00:56:42,530
that there will be I had been contacted

1271
00:56:46,570 --> 00:56:43,940
by three or four different people in

1272
00:56:49,870 --> 00:56:46,580
last couple of months old-timers who

1273
00:56:51,700 --> 00:56:49,880
think it's time to speak out and so I'm

1274
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:51,710
trying to make sure that I'm not being

1275
00:56:55,630 --> 00:56:53,810
led down the garden path

1276
00:56:57,070 --> 00:56:55,640
you know they know all about this or all

1277
00:57:00,880 --> 00:56:57,080
about that well I've heard that story

1278
00:57:02,740 --> 00:57:00,890
before but it may be we're just getting

1279
00:57:05,110 --> 00:57:02,750
to the point where people are fed up as

1280
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:05,120
a matter of fact I just got just read it

1281
00:57:11,470 --> 00:57:08,330
this morning a survey done by a guy in

1282
00:57:15,820 --> 00:57:11,480
New York there on the East Coast anyway

1283
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:15,830
and it was attitudes about Roswell they

1284
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:17,810
did the survey over a thousand people

1285
00:57:23,590 --> 00:57:21,170
and they asked some 43 questions and do

1286
00:57:24,620 --> 00:57:23,600
you believe in Roswell and not believe

1287
00:57:27,530 --> 00:57:24,630
and

1288
00:57:31,550 --> 00:57:27,540
strongly believe you know strongly

1289
00:57:33,710 --> 00:57:31,560
disbelieve the complex survey and the

1290
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:33,720
guys who did it and his name was

1291
00:57:38,780 --> 00:57:35,280
unpronounceable and I don't have it in

1292
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:38,790
front of me but it showed that much

1293
00:57:43,970 --> 00:57:41,700
apparently to somebody surprised the

1294
00:57:45,740 --> 00:57:43,980
number of believers is very high out

1295
00:57:49,220 --> 00:57:45,750
there and the ratio believers to

1296
00:57:51,380 --> 00:57:49,230
non-believers i whole bunch of

1297
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:51,390
fascinating things if you believe in

1298
00:57:56,450 --> 00:57:54,810
psychic paranormal stuff guys you're

1299
00:57:59,360 --> 00:57:56,460
more likely to believe that roswell

1300
00:58:01,040 --> 00:57:59,370
involved an alien spacecraft and there's

1301
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:01,050
a government cover-up and so forth

1302
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:03,510
and a lot of interesting data which will

1303
00:58:08,810 --> 00:58:07,050
come as a shock to some people and you

1304
00:58:11,380 --> 00:58:08,820
know you're never gonna convince anybody

1305
00:58:14,180 --> 00:58:11,390
about ufos i certainly not my goal

1306
00:58:17,660 --> 00:58:14,190
they're still flat earthers out there if

1307
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:17,670
you will but the point is to have you

1308
00:58:23,180 --> 00:58:20,640
know a majority of the people think well

1309
00:58:24,980 --> 00:58:23,190
about this subject which i think they do

1310
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:24,990
already i've never had any eggs thrown

1311
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:29,850
at me well wait till next year yeah I

1312
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:32,730
realize that let's hope I'm still around

1313
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:36,810
that's a good thing good you know it's

1314
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:39,570
let me go back to something to that one

1315
00:58:45,410 --> 00:58:41,760
of the biggest problems ufology has is

1316
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:45,420
the noisy negativism the nasty noisy

1317
00:58:52,250 --> 00:58:49,200
negativism of the SETI and astronomical

1318
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:52,260
communities in general study you know

1319
00:58:56,900 --> 00:58:54,510
silly effort to investigate and so forth

1320
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:56,910
these guys are really caught in a bind

1321
00:59:02,510 --> 00:58:59,760
if aliens are visiting

1322
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:02,520
who the heck needs to listen with the

1323
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:05,610
radio telescope and one of the problems

1324
00:59:09,620 --> 00:59:07,410
we have with them is not only that they

1325
00:59:11,450 --> 00:59:09,630
don't refer to the evidence about UFOs

1326
00:59:13,820 --> 00:59:11,460
the five large-scale scientific studies

1327
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:13,830
I talked about but they seem totally

1328
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:17,490
aware unaware rather of the fact that

1329
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:19,170
there's a huge research and development

1330
00:59:24,410 --> 00:59:21,210
community I know it's hard to believe

1331
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:24,420
outside of academia I've had two people

1332
00:59:28,730 --> 00:59:26,970
tell me hey your eyes what would happen

1333
00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:28,740
they'd have had to get scientists from

1334
00:59:32,810 --> 00:59:30,660
half the campuses in the country to deal

1335
00:59:34,970 --> 00:59:32,820
with that and I say you've got to be

1336
00:59:37,700 --> 00:59:34,980
kidding we what do you think the

1337
00:59:38,500 --> 00:59:37,710
Manhattan Project was a Los Alamos Eddie

1338
00:59:41,110 --> 00:59:38,510
that was

1339
00:59:43,060 --> 00:59:41,120
people working there these stealth

1340
00:59:45,550 --> 00:59:43,070
fighter was developed not at a

1341
00:59:48,310 --> 00:59:45,560
university but in secret at a cost of

1342
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:48,320
ten billion dollars by Lockheed and

1343
00:59:52,540 --> 00:59:50,480
don't tell me about wasted money what

1344
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:52,550
I'm saying is that there are plenty of

1345
00:59:58,780 --> 00:59:55,570
R&D people who were readily available in

1346
01:00:01,140 --> 00:59:58,790
1947 at Los Alamos at Sandia and fretted

1347
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:01,150
Oak Ridge and a whole bunch of companies

1348
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:04,130
who were ready willing and able and had

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01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:06,530
the finest equipment I worked under

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01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:07,910
security for 14 years

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01:00:12,370 --> 01:00:10,400
and one of the nice things was that they

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01:00:14,410 --> 01:00:12,380
weren't penny-pinching I was doing

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01:00:17,740 --> 01:00:14,420
experiments using expensive equipment

1354
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:17,750
expensive materials well geant aircraft

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01:00:22,780 --> 01:00:20,450
McClure propulsion department which most

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01:00:26,500 --> 01:00:22,790
people never heard over of course but it

1357
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:26,510
existed between 1956 and 1961 I worked

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01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:29,690
there for between 55 really I worked

1359
01:00:36,070 --> 01:00:31,970
there for three years in 1958 we only

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01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:36,080
spent one hundred million dollars that

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01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:39,890
year we employed 3,500 people 1,100 of

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01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:42,290
the more engineers and scientists this

1363
01:00:47,350 --> 01:00:44,570
was an academia all the technical

1364
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:47,360
reports I wrote were classified and they

1365
01:00:51,730 --> 01:00:49,490
weren't done under university auspices

1366
01:00:53,410 --> 01:00:51,740
well well then brings up that brings up

1367
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:53,420
the whole subject of of

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01:00:58,510 --> 01:00:56,480
compartmentalization classification how

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01:01:02,290 --> 01:00:58,520
much do you think that the United States

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01:01:04,270 --> 01:01:02,300
government truly knows about UFOs and is

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01:01:07,180 --> 01:01:04,280
not disclosing it to the public that's

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01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:07,190
above some sort of classification level

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01:01:13,150 --> 01:01:10,400
for disclosure remember there are two

1374
01:01:17,140 --> 01:01:13,160
things that are most important here need

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01:01:19,420 --> 01:01:17,150
to know all right and know having an

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01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:19,430
appropriate clearance having an

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01:01:23,020 --> 01:01:21,290
appropriate clearance isn't enough to

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01:01:24,580 --> 01:01:23,030
get you an access to everything that for

1379
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:24,590
example is top-secret

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01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:26,690
you have to have a need-to-know I

1381
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:28,730
couldn't get access when I was working

1382
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:30,170
on radiation shielding for nuclear

1383
01:01:36,430 --> 01:01:33,730
airplanes I had a cute clearance and I

1384
01:01:38,170 --> 01:01:36,440
read and classified abstracts about work

1385
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:38,180
being done by the nuclear Navy and

1386
01:01:42,910 --> 01:01:40,130
radiation shielding for nuclear

1387
01:01:45,010 --> 01:01:42,920
submarines but I couldn't get access to

1388
01:01:46,660 --> 01:01:45,020
those classified reports I couldn't get

1389
01:01:48,550 --> 01:01:46,670
a need to know and where rickover said

1390
01:01:49,030 --> 01:01:48,560
nobody from the outside finds out what

1391
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:49,040
we're doing

1392
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:51,210
especially snowy Freeman because we're

1393
01:01:57,530 --> 01:01:55,650
paranoid about him I'm kidding well the

1394
01:01:59,359 --> 01:01:57,540
government what I'm saying is it's not

1395
01:02:03,200 --> 01:01:59,369
the government that keeps secrets

1396
01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:03,210
it's individual organizations individual

1397
01:02:09,799 --> 01:02:07,680
groups uh CIA the NSA the DIA the NRO

1398
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:09,809
the whole alphabet right and they're

1399
01:02:14,410 --> 01:02:11,520
compartmentalized within within each of

1400
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:14,420
these specific organizations as well oh

1401
01:02:23,569 --> 01:02:19,280
yes there ever be truly a disclosure

1402
01:02:26,270 --> 01:02:23,579
like the XO politics people are crowing

1403
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:26,280
about I guess Weber's now saying that

1404
01:02:32,780 --> 01:02:28,079
we're gonna have an announcement by

1405
01:02:34,220 --> 01:02:32,790
Obama and it's just it's just round I'll

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01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:34,230
tell you what we've heard that all the

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time but like gentlemen we have to hear

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believed that the government is doing a

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great job that the Fed will stop handing

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out trillions of dollars like

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that Social Security would be there for

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you that's not what's happening

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you might even pass on gold if the

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stimulus package wouldn't fuel inflation

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or that the dollar wouldn't lose value

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the time to buy gold for the realists

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percent while gold has risen 300 percent

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find out what they know call us and I'll

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very well three eight hundred six eight

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01:07:35,630 --> 01:07:33,750
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01:07:37,130 --> 01:07:35,640
co-host you're in the power cast and the

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01:07:40,270 --> 01:07:37,140
question being of course we've heard

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01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:40,280
from the exo politics people and others

1533
01:07:46,010 --> 01:07:43,170
disclosures coming yesterday today

1534
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:46,020
tomorrow whenever so what do we say

1535
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:48,810
about that stand well I'm not a fan of

1536
01:07:54,170 --> 01:07:51,770
the exo politics movement or of the

1537
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:54,180
disclosure group or any of those things

1538
01:07:58,520 --> 01:07:55,650
I think they really don't understand

1539
01:08:00,620 --> 01:07:58,530
national security they don't understand

1540
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:00,630
the need for security I don't want

1541
01:08:06,170 --> 01:08:03,210
everything put out on the table what if

1542
01:08:08,540 --> 01:08:06,180
we pick two things we figured out a

1543
01:08:11,540 --> 01:08:08,550
better means of propulsion for vehicles

1544
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:11,550
able to deliver nuclear weapons or we've

1545
01:08:15,620 --> 01:08:13,530
figured out a better means for detecting

1546
01:08:17,870 --> 01:08:15,630
things moving in the atmosphere than say

1547
01:08:20,530 --> 01:08:17,880
radar they can cloak we know how to

1548
01:08:23,660 --> 01:08:20,540
cloak stealth fighters and so forth then

1549
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:23,670
don't respond if you will don't show up

1550
01:08:29,599 --> 01:08:25,920
on radar systems unless you're

1551
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:29,609
particularly clever what if we develop

1552
01:08:34,340 --> 01:08:31,890
such things should we put it out on the

1553
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:34,350
table where Osama can buy it you've got

1554
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:37,410
the money I don't think so and you know

1555
01:08:42,860 --> 01:08:40,770
that's another aspect of the the SETI

1556
01:08:44,450 --> 01:08:42,870
guys they don't seem to understand there

1557
01:08:46,460 --> 01:08:44,460
is a national security as well if we

1558
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:46,470
picked up a signal from somebody out

1559
01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:49,650
there we'll tell everybody sure and who

1560
01:08:55,820 --> 01:08:51,839
cares that's very different from saying

1561
01:08:57,730 --> 01:08:55,830
Oh landed three blocks over abducted two

1562
01:09:04,460 --> 01:08:57,740
people brought them back a day later

1563
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:04,470
emulated ago yeah all at the same week

1564
01:09:07,370 --> 01:09:05,730
you know they were serving these kids

1565
01:09:09,620 --> 01:09:07,380
good steak sandwiches but people are

1566
01:09:13,700 --> 01:09:09,630
abducted those look nice too

1567
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,710
what I'm getting at is that I am for the

1568
01:09:17,690 --> 01:09:15,600
world's governments making an

1569
01:09:20,450 --> 01:09:17,700
announcement that indeed the planet is

1570
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:20,460
being visited and we are sponsoring

1571
01:09:26,539 --> 01:09:22,799
international conferences to deal with

1572
01:09:29,270 --> 01:09:26,549
the religious economic sociological and

1573
01:09:31,730 --> 01:09:29,280
political implications of this but you

1574
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:31,740
know there isn't anybody who speaks for

1575
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:33,330
planet Earth that's what's so funny

1576
01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:37,170
about all those White House Steven Greer

1577
01:09:45,500 --> 01:09:43,790
and Korea corrected Stan maybe it's the

1578
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:45,510
wrong in avoidance we have to ask him

1579
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:49,050
which universe he's talking about he

1580
01:09:55,790 --> 01:09:52,080
would like to be but it's kind of funny

1581
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:55,800
when talking both made Stanton T

1582
01:10:01,430 --> 01:09:58,530
Friedman is real a documentary for the

1583
01:10:04,850 --> 01:10:01,440
television here in Canada he tried to

1584
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:04,860
talk to Steve and wound up with nothing

1585
01:10:10,220 --> 01:10:06,930
useful this was at a newfound conference

1586
01:10:13,220 --> 01:10:10,230
in Southern California he didn't want to

1587
01:10:15,890 --> 01:10:13,230
talk about anything but Steve you know

1588
01:10:18,500 --> 01:10:15,900
how it goes well he's been on the ships

1589
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:18,510
he knows quote unquote yeah I know

1590
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:20,970
and what I'm saying is I don't think

1591
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:22,890
that these movements have done a lot of

1592
01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:25,920
good I did I one of the I do a monthly

1593
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:28,320
column for them you fund journal and UFO

1594
01:10:33,230 --> 01:10:30,690
magazine and I did one on Webber's book

1595
01:10:34,820 --> 01:10:33,240
and I was very unimpressed to say the

1596
01:10:37,250 --> 01:10:34,830
least he makes all kinds of statements

1597
01:10:38,890 --> 01:10:37,260
having no evidence whatsoever you know

1598
01:10:40,730 --> 01:10:38,900
that the whole plunge is being run by

1599
01:10:42,740 --> 01:10:40,740
extraterrestrials out there power

1600
01:10:46,130 --> 01:10:42,750
structure and all the rest of this stuff

1601
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:46,140
so now there is an interesting book

1602
01:10:53,060 --> 01:10:49,290
after disclosure by Richard Dolan and

1603
01:10:56,060 --> 01:10:53,070
Bryce is able which you know what's

1604
01:10:58,250 --> 01:10:56,070
gonna happen if there is disclosure what

1605
01:11:00,590 --> 01:10:58,260
will change what won't change and so

1606
01:11:04,010 --> 01:11:00,600
forth then interesting I mentioned that

1607
01:11:05,780 --> 01:11:04,020
these public opinion polls about who

1608
01:11:07,610 --> 01:11:05,790
believes in Roswell the strongest

1609
01:11:09,020 --> 01:11:07,620
believers were Catholics which I found

1610
01:11:11,150 --> 01:11:09,030
pretty

1611
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:11,160
you mean Jews don't believe in Roswell

1612
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:13,530
that's right comparison I mean just

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01:11:21,020 --> 01:11:15,210
because I got the research started

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01:11:22,610 --> 01:11:21,030
doesn't get credit for well that was one

1615
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:22,620
of many interesting things the guy's

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01:11:25,790 --> 01:11:24,330
gonna make a book out of it and it

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01:11:29,540 --> 01:11:25,800
should be fascinating but I was

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01:11:31,310 --> 01:11:29,550
surprised that the religious thing I

1619
01:11:34,670 --> 01:11:31,320
guess the idea is you can believe in an

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01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:34,680
unseeable unknowable untouchable God and

1621
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:36,150
to believe something happened in Roswell

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01:11:43,370 --> 01:11:39,120
is not so far out the governments keep

1623
01:11:46,190 --> 01:11:43,380
secrets etcetera etc it was quite quite

1624
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:46,200
fascinating but oh speaking of after

1625
01:11:50,780 --> 01:11:48,570
disclosure in Bryce table incidentally

1626
01:11:53,780 --> 01:11:50,790
there's another event that may take

1627
01:11:54,859 --> 01:11:53,790
place this year Bryce's outfit he's a

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01:11:57,709 --> 01:11:54,869
Hollywood wheel he

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01:12:00,949 --> 01:11:57,719
did dark skies yeah that was a very

1630
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:00,959
intriguing show you know it includes

1631
01:12:05,989 --> 01:12:03,050
some mj-12 and all this kind of stuff

1632
01:12:10,899 --> 01:12:05,999
anyway his company has bought the rights

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01:12:14,389 --> 01:12:10,909
to my life and on Schmidt's life and to

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01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:14,399
Don's book with Tom Carrie called

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01:12:20,299 --> 01:12:17,010
witness to Roswell and my book top

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01:12:23,419 --> 01:12:20,309
secret magic and the idea is to look at

1637
01:12:28,029 --> 01:12:23,429
the well the difficulties and triumphs

1638
01:12:31,939 --> 01:12:28,039
of researchers on mj-12 on Roswell the

1639
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:31,949
times when terrible things look good and

1640
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:35,840
you know it'll be a combination of oh

1641
01:12:41,719 --> 01:12:39,570
all the President's Men and JFK how's

1642
01:12:45,169 --> 01:12:41,729
that dynamic strong we're gonna play

1643
01:12:48,199 --> 01:12:45,179
Stan Friedman Richard Dreyfuss there you

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01:12:49,580 --> 01:12:48,209
go well they're working as we speak on

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01:12:51,589 --> 01:12:49,590
the screenplay

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01:12:54,379 --> 01:12:51,599
just think Felder the actor who played

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01:13:02,179 --> 01:12:54,389
Dick Cheney in the movie w would play

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01:13:03,979 --> 01:13:02,189
Stanton Friedman that strange boy well

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:03,989
here's one for you Stan this is a

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01:13:12,649 --> 01:13:06,090
question let me give the title of that

1651
01:13:14,810 --> 01:13:12,659
it's called magic men Maj I see no Queen

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01:13:19,339 --> 01:13:14,820
a term there like that

1653
01:13:22,159 --> 01:13:19,349
so we're soon gonna see the the the

1654
01:13:23,359 --> 01:13:22,169
dramatization of your 44 year careers

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01:13:25,639 --> 01:13:23,369
are they going to start out when you're

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01:13:31,639 --> 01:13:25,649
a little kid and wondering at the sky

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01:13:33,619 --> 01:13:31,649
and then years 44 years ago I was a work

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01:13:36,350 --> 01:13:33,629
in prisoners don't forget I'm an old guy

1659
01:13:40,639 --> 01:13:36,360
that's 44 years ago I gave my first

1660
01:13:42,619 --> 01:13:40,649
lecture ready my interest began 53 years

1661
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:42,629
ago I don't know where they're gonna

1662
01:13:46,459 --> 01:13:45,090
start I do know that it will include of

1663
01:13:48,949 --> 01:13:46,469
course the fact that I worked under

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01:13:51,889 --> 01:13:48,959
security worked in government places I

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01:13:53,419 --> 01:13:51,899
mean government programs admittedly

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01:13:56,299 --> 01:13:53,429
there are guys out there who say

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01:13:57,739 --> 01:13:56,309
Friedman works for the CIA he's I just

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01:13:59,089 --> 01:13:57,749
got something saying he ends every

1669
01:14:01,159 --> 01:13:59,099
lecture is saying there ought to be a

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world government which is totally untrue

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01:14:06,619 --> 01:14:03,869
but you can't control what people say it

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01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:06,629
about you you know what you can do is do

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01:14:11,090 --> 01:14:08,610
your best and hope that enough people

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recognize that and get on with it if you

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01:14:13,220 --> 01:14:12,690
got a thin skin this is the wrong

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01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:13,230
business

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01:14:21,649 --> 01:14:19,650
oh boy we have some questions from our

1678
01:14:23,060 --> 01:14:21,659
from our forums here that I'd like to

1679
01:14:25,629 --> 01:14:23,070
get to there's some pretty interesting

1680
01:14:28,490 --> 01:14:25,639
ones here you know we were talking about

1681
01:14:32,149 --> 01:14:28,500
compartmentalization disclosure what are

1682
01:14:34,220 --> 01:14:32,159
your thoughts on Colonel Corso and and

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the the involvement the potential

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01:14:38,740 --> 01:14:35,940
involvement it's kind of a two-part

1685
01:14:41,930 --> 01:14:38,750
question of NASA we have a witness that

1686
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:41,940
for NASA that walked into a room and and

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witnessed the air brushing out of

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01:14:49,570 --> 01:14:46,530
objects possibly or something on the

1689
01:14:51,859 --> 01:14:49,580
images from the moon and in other places

1690
01:14:54,649 --> 01:14:51,869
what are your feelings on on the whole

1691
01:14:59,540 --> 01:14:54,659
idea of of back-engineering

1692
01:15:03,320 --> 01:14:59,550
alien technologies and that's the first

1693
01:15:08,620 --> 01:15:03,330
thing is that back engineering is not

1694
01:15:12,770 --> 01:15:08,630
easy my analogy that I use for people is

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suppose you gave Christopher Columbus a

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nuclear sub and said Chris here a great

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guy he discovered a whole new world we

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had a little problem here we need two

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01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:22,380
more of these money is no object

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01:15:27,020 --> 01:15:24,210
could you build as close please within

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01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:27,030
the next ten years would say yeah we'll

1702
01:15:33,709 --> 01:15:30,210
see what Chris Columbus will do with

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01:15:35,540 --> 01:15:33,719
that admonition to build that particular

1704
01:15:37,729 --> 01:15:35,550
invention or sentiment I thought too

1705
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:37,739
let's see we can build that one Stan

1706
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Friedman joins us Chris O'Brien's the

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cast so if Chris Columbus is being

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confronted with this advanced technology

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01:20:36,310 --> 01:20:33,860
what could he do having all the

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resources of the planet nothing right

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that's right if you gave the smartest

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people on the planet let's say 75 years

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ago a digital wristwatch from today you

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01:20:47,620 --> 01:20:45,500
know a $25

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item if you get a good one could he have

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made another one not a chance

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I mean even known it was a watch and you

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01:20:55,930 --> 01:20:53,870
know there's a battery in there but he

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01:20:58,540 --> 01:20:55,940
couldn't have analyzed the chip in the

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first place even if he could I'll

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01:21:02,850 --> 01:21:00,860
guarantee that he couldn't he wouldn't

1814
01:21:06,700 --> 01:21:02,860
have been able to duplicate it so

1815
01:21:09,010 --> 01:21:06,710
back-engineering is not easy it's not

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01:21:11,950 --> 01:21:09,020
enough to say oh it's made out of iron

1817
01:21:15,010 --> 01:21:11,960
cobalt nickel yeah but what conditions

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01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:15,020
were used to make it and what little

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01:21:20,740 --> 01:21:17,090
bits of impurities make the difference

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and you know uranium 7 tenths of one

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01:21:25,870 --> 01:21:23,960
percent is u-235 we spent an awful lot

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01:21:30,220 --> 01:21:25,880
of money in World War two trying to get

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01:21:32,260 --> 01:21:30,230
that seven tenths of 1% the big facility

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01:21:35,740 --> 01:21:32,270
at Oak Ridges a mile long gaseous

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01:21:37,510 --> 01:21:35,750
diffusion plant it took 5% of the

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01:21:40,450 --> 01:21:37,520
electrical power of the United States

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01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:40,460
that's why it was in Tennessee TVA to

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01:21:46,390 --> 01:21:44,570
run that plant in secret mind you with

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01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:46,400
tens of thousands of people involved in

1830
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:48,080
those a huge immunity

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01:21:53,170 --> 01:21:50,810
many of them who had no idea what was

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going on when this meter shows this

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01:21:56,740 --> 01:21:54,800
reading you turn the dial you know you

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01:21:58,570 --> 01:21:56,750
turn the handle this way that kind of

1835
01:22:03,280 --> 01:21:58,580
thing are you calling into question

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01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:03,290
course those uh very much so yeah I met

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01:22:09,610 --> 01:22:06,290
the good Colonel we've done television

1838
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:09,620
shows a radio shows he was a wannabe

1839
01:22:15,190 --> 01:22:12,530
what I'm saying is it was a nicer old

1840
01:22:16,870 --> 01:22:15,200
man but he was a lieutenant colonel

1841
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:16,880
during most of his years of service he

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01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:17,930
became a colonel when he

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01:22:23,020 --> 01:22:20,570
tired but the outfit he worked with

1844
01:22:24,730 --> 01:22:23,030
under general Trudeau at the Pentagon

1845
01:22:27,730 --> 01:22:24,740
had two people in it he was a junior

1846
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:27,740
officer this was 1960 we found the other

1847
01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:30,050
guy except he was in the hospital the

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01:22:34,330 --> 01:22:32,480
guy who was his boss and he never got

1849
01:22:37,180 --> 01:22:34,340
out of the hospital alive anyway so I

1850
01:22:38,500 --> 01:22:37,190
couldn't verify anything with him but of

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01:22:40,900 --> 01:22:38,510
course I was not an engineer or

1852
01:22:42,130 --> 01:22:40,910
scientist many people have confused the

1853
01:22:44,290 --> 01:22:42,140
fact that the foreign technology

1854
01:22:47,710 --> 01:22:44,300
division at the Pentagon had nothing to

1855
01:22:50,140 --> 01:22:47,720
do with the foreign technology division

1856
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:50,150
at wright-patterson Air Force Base I had

1857
01:22:54,300 --> 01:22:52,490
some dealings with them back in the 60s

1858
01:22:56,890 --> 01:22:54,310
as a matter of fact same time he was

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01:22:58,750 --> 01:22:56,900
working with his group and they had

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01:23:01,780 --> 01:22:58,760
loads of engineers and scientists we

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01:23:03,670 --> 01:23:01,790
know they got wreckage in 1947 are we

1862
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:03,680
supposed to believe that the government

1863
01:23:09,940 --> 01:23:07,130
did nothing with that until Trudeau

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01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:09,950
turned over a filing cabinet of pieces

1865
01:23:15,550 --> 01:23:13,520
of wreckage to Corso to figure out what

1866
01:23:17,230 --> 01:23:15,560
was going on I don't believe it for a

1867
01:23:19,480 --> 01:23:17,240
minute but you know there's a question

1868
01:23:22,510 --> 01:23:19,490
here though we have this guy Corso and

1869
01:23:24,820 --> 01:23:22,520
he has a distinguished record as a

1870
01:23:26,830 --> 01:23:24,830
military officer did he just make it up

1871
01:23:31,030 --> 01:23:26,840
yeah what would be the motivation well

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01:23:32,440 --> 01:23:31,040
I'm not a psychiatrist I don't

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01:23:36,310 --> 01:23:32,450
understand the reasons a lot of people

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01:23:38,440 --> 01:23:36,320
do lots of things but the idea was to

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leave a legacy for his kids make a ton

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of money the book did pretty well I

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remembered that Strom Thurmond who

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supposedly wrote the foreword for the

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book withdrew it when he found out what

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the book really was and said away

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thought it was that probably sold 10,000

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books you know and banning a movie in

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Boston you spy you guys aren't old

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enough for that when they did that that

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would guarantee bigger audience for the

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01:24:10,780 --> 01:24:07,490
movie I don't know why he for example

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his story about being at Fort Riley on

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July 6th his bowling buddy had picked

1889
01:24:20,350 --> 01:24:16,580
him off that there was a box in there

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01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:20,360
with an alien body in it or a blue fluid

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01:24:27,460 --> 01:24:23,360
and a body in it now in the first place

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01:24:29,380 --> 01:24:27,470
it's a total violation of security you

1893
01:24:30,910 --> 01:24:29,390
would never have such a body traipsing

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around without guards with it all the

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time

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I mean one would think that guys

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carrying nuclear weapons compounders

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would park their truck outside of

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McDonald's and go in for lunch it

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01:24:44,890 --> 01:24:42,830
doesn't work that way I asked him how he

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01:24:47,620 --> 01:24:44,900
knew it was July 6 well I know when I

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01:24:52,330 --> 01:24:47,630
was transferred there it turns out that

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01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:52,340
was March or April of 47 so that it's no

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01:24:56,410 --> 01:24:54,170
answer at all it doesn't fit with what

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01:24:58,210 --> 01:24:56,420
we know about what as well so basically

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01:25:00,520 --> 01:24:58,220
here we are saying basically the long

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01:25:02,500 --> 01:25:00,530
and short of it is Corso made it all up

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01:25:04,450 --> 01:25:02,510
is that what you're saying it may have

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01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:04,460
taken bits and pieces of true stories

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01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:06,650
and mixed them in with fiction I know

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that he wrote the I contacted the army

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archives to get more information about

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Corso and I did and it turned out he had

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01:25:20,050 --> 01:25:16,880
been sending letters he was gonna write

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01:25:23,020 --> 01:25:20,060
things up looking for stuff for his book

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I won't say he made it all up well let

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me give me one specific example which

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01:25:28,570 --> 01:25:25,700
he's certainly made up

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he signed a sworn statement for Peter

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Gersten attorney Peter Gersten right

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01:25:37,090 --> 01:25:33,680
there in Arizona that he had been a

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member of the National Security Council

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that's the highest advisory body to the

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President on national security matters I

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01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:44,510
checked I couldn't imagine why he would

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01:25:49,090 --> 01:25:47,210
have been I checked with the Eisenhower

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01:25:51,190 --> 01:25:49,100
library in Abilene Kansas I've been

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there they know me they sent me a letter

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saying he not only was not not a member

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but he never attended a meeting I sent a

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01:26:00,910 --> 01:25:58,670
copy of that to Peter he showed it to

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01:26:02,170 --> 01:26:00,920
Corso shouldn't we take that out of your

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01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:02,180
sworn statement because they were gonna

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use it to try to get his background from

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the government and Corso said no now

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01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:11,540
that's very strange behavior the easiest

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01:26:14,230 --> 01:26:13,010
thing in the world in other words for

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01:26:16,930 --> 01:26:14,240
the government to say well this is

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baloney if I could find out that anybody

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01:26:22,630 --> 01:26:19,010
else could have bothered to ask the

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01:26:24,790 --> 01:26:22,640
question so that's why I am dubious do I

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01:26:25,390 --> 01:26:24,800
think he's a nasty evil man of course

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01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:25,400
not

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01:26:29,260 --> 01:26:27,170
well do you think maybe he was a ringer

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01:26:31,210 --> 01:26:29,270
they brought him in to to further

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01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:31,220
discredit the field by making outrageous

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01:26:34,690 --> 01:26:33,290
claims and that wouldn't stand up to

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01:26:37,420 --> 01:26:34,700
scrutiny to say you're on the National

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01:26:39,010 --> 01:26:37,430
Security Council and then not be I mean

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01:26:42,460 --> 01:26:39,020
that's easy to check I mean it's not

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01:26:44,150 --> 01:26:42,470
like there's no people many people in

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01:26:45,860 --> 01:26:44,160
ufology don't check things

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01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:45,870
you know there's the old robert scott

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01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:47,840
Lazar with his master's degree in

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01:26:56,150 --> 01:26:51,090
physics from MIT and another one from

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01:26:58,280 --> 01:26:56,160
Caltech in electronics some real

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01:27:00,830 --> 01:26:58,290
scientists here how about the skinwalker

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01:27:02,980 --> 01:27:00,840
ranch with the National Institute of

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01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:02,990
Discovery Science is going up there and

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01:27:09,170 --> 01:27:07,650
chasing their tail in in in stories and

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01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:09,180
rumors have come out about some pretty

1962
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:11,610
fantastic events that have occurred up

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01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:14,730
there that seemed to be youthful aaja

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01:27:18,590 --> 01:27:16,080
chol in nature but also have a

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01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:18,600
paranormal aspect to them and I'm

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01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:21,600
talking world-class science allegedly is

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01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:24,930
being performed up there what are your

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01:27:29,180 --> 01:27:26,850
feelings about where the the paranormal

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01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:29,190
aspect of this ties in with the U falah

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01:27:33,470 --> 01:27:31,650
djegal question the skinwalker ranch

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01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:33,480
should be a really good example of the

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01:27:38,590 --> 01:27:35,850
meshing of the two frankly I would be

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01:27:41,090 --> 01:27:38,600
astonished if an advanced technological

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01:27:43,210 --> 01:27:41,100
civilization you know maybe 500 years

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01:27:46,670 --> 01:27:43,220
ahead of us and all those five million I

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01:27:48,530 --> 01:27:46,680
didn't have a paranormal aspect to it I

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01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:48,540
would expect them to know about

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01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:51,090
telepathy for example I would expect

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01:27:57,050 --> 01:27:53,730
them to figure out how to the crazy

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01:27:58,820 --> 01:27:57,060
thing of taking people through walls or

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01:28:01,610 --> 01:27:58,830
through windows without breaking them

1982
01:28:03,140 --> 01:28:01,620
you know assemble disassemble whatever I

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01:28:06,110 --> 01:28:03,150
would expect them to know about the

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01:28:08,450 --> 01:28:06,120
spirit world and life after death and a

1985
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:08,460
whole bunch of things which we look down

1986
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:10,890
our noses on of course we do about a lot

1987
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:12,330
of other things that turn out to be just

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01:28:18,230 --> 01:28:15,410
like the authors see Clark quote

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01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:18,240
insufficient technology ahead of ours is

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01:28:22,190 --> 01:28:19,920
gonna appear as if magic in other words

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01:28:25,820 --> 01:28:22,200
yeah yeah I think that's true and I

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01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:25,830
think we neglect that at our peril the

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01:28:32,150 --> 01:28:29,610
thing is we don't know everything and I

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have to constantly come back to that

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01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:35,250
point to people because we don't know

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01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:38,010
how to do it doesn't mean it can't be

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01:28:43,940 --> 01:28:41,520
done we are a very young primitive

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01:28:48,890 --> 01:28:43,950
society we discovered the neutron in

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01:28:52,460 --> 01:28:48,900
1932 first atomic bomb in 1945 first

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01:28:54,050 --> 01:28:52,470
h-bomb 1952 and you know I'd like to

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01:28:57,759 --> 01:28:54,060
scare people a little bit that first

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01:29:00,979 --> 01:28:57,769
h-bomb the fireball was three miles

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01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:00,989
it released as much energy as exploding

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01:29:10,069 --> 01:29:06,449
ten million tons of TNT in World War two

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01:29:13,069 --> 01:29:10,079
say 1942 about ten years earlier a big

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bomb was a 10 ton blockbuster took a

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b-29 to carry that and yet here's

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something that releases the energy of 10

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million tons now anybody who thinks we

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can't use fusion for deep space

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propulsion that's the reason for

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bringing this up I'll tell you what

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we'll get into fusion but we have to

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fuse some advertising messages coming up

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next well Dan Friedman that's how it

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goes

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Chrissa Brian's the co-host I'm Jean

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O'Brien I'm gene Steinberg you're in the

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power cast when we interrupted you Stan

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we were talking about energy and UFOs

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well yeah that's why I brought up the

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study guys and they're not seeming to be

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aware of what's going on out there we

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have operated nuclear rockets fishing

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markets operating at a power level of 40

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40 400 megawatts that's twice the power

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of Grand Coulee Dam this is Los Alamos

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built that it was tested in like 1969

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out at the nuclear test site it was

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under 7 feet in diameter twice the power

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of Grand Coulee Dam that's nuclear

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fishing when I worked at Westinghouse we

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tested one it was smaller but still very

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impressive

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now you I did it was involved in a study

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on fusion propulsion systems if he used

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the right stuff in the right way and

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kicked particles out the back end of a

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rocket having 10 million times as much

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energy per particles they can get in a

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dumb old chemical rocket so these guys

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who think that you know chemical rockets

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are the only way to go out there folks

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01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:23,079
they're still in the magellan sailboat

2141
01:35:27,839 --> 01:35:25,090
era of three years to get around the

2142
01:35:30,149 --> 01:35:27,849
planet instead of 90 minutes that's an

2143
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:30,159
improvement of a factor of 15,000 and

2144
01:35:36,810 --> 01:35:33,130
less than 500 years that'll be 500 years

2145
01:35:38,819 --> 01:35:36,820
pretty soon so what I'm saying is we

2146
01:35:41,700 --> 01:35:38,829
need to be more realistic about what we

2147
01:35:44,250 --> 01:35:41,710
already know and if we know this was

2148
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:44,260
such a slim history behind us of

2149
01:35:51,689 --> 01:35:48,639
advanced technology first flight 1903

2150
01:35:54,569 --> 01:35:51,699
remember British astronomer royal saying

2151
01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:54,579
space travel is utter bilge that was one

2152
01:35:59,910 --> 01:35:58,090
year before Sputnik clean up I what

2153
01:36:01,420 --> 01:35:59,920
about somebody who's been around a

2154
01:36:04,180 --> 01:36:01,430
little longer

2155
01:36:06,670 --> 01:36:04,190
years a billion years later Reticuli out

2156
01:36:09,190 --> 01:36:06,680
there is at least a billion years older

2157
01:36:11,170 --> 01:36:09,200
than the Sun so the point being stand

2158
01:36:13,210 --> 01:36:11,180
the long and short of it is that things

2159
01:36:16,300 --> 01:36:13,220
that we put in the realm of the

2160
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:16,310
paranormal beyond just spaceships coming

2161
01:36:21,130 --> 01:36:18,770
here all these side events it may just

2162
01:36:23,290 --> 01:36:21,140
be because they are so far in advance of

2163
01:36:26,050 --> 01:36:23,300
us that what they're doing looks to be

2164
01:36:28,570 --> 01:36:26,060
paranormal missile right I think that's

2165
01:36:31,510 --> 01:36:28,580
a very accurate representation of it and

2166
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:31,520
I think we need to be humble to realize

2167
01:36:36,670 --> 01:36:34,370
that the change of our knowledge the

2168
01:36:39,220 --> 01:36:36,680
rate of change hasn't stopped any

2169
01:36:42,460 --> 01:36:39,230
Moore's law still holds you double the

2170
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:42,470
number of transistors Senecas silicon

2171
01:36:47,410 --> 01:36:44,690
every couple of years which means after

2172
01:36:50,980 --> 01:36:47,420
40 years boy does a computer on your

2173
01:36:54,370 --> 01:36:50,990
desk look impressive I was using a slide

2174
01:36:55,930 --> 01:36:54,380
rule and I started working industry and

2175
01:36:58,240 --> 01:36:55,940
I can tell you about the iPhone that I

2176
01:37:00,130 --> 01:36:58,250
have in my hand now well yes that's

2177
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:00,140
truly remarkable and I don't even have

2178
01:37:04,150 --> 01:37:02,570
one but nobody in two classes at

2179
01:37:07,090 --> 01:37:04,160
University of Detriot know what a slide

2180
01:37:10,620 --> 01:37:07,100
rule was when I said that it was less

2181
01:37:12,910 --> 01:37:10,630
than 50 years so what I'm saying is any

2182
01:37:16,090 --> 01:37:12,920
realistic evaluation of the rate of

2183
01:37:17,940 --> 01:37:16,100
change of technology says if you throw

2184
01:37:20,020 --> 01:37:17,950
enough money and enough people at it

2185
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:20,030
you're gonna get changes and they're

2186
01:37:26,650 --> 01:37:24,170
gonna come rapidly and we're foolish if

2187
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:26,660
we ignore that fact that doesn't mean

2188
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:28,370
aliens aren't coming here and it doesn't

2189
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:29,690
mean we haven't tried to learn from

2190
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:31,370
wreckage at Roswell and other crash

2191
01:37:38,590 --> 01:37:35,210
sites it means that we have to be

2192
01:37:41,380 --> 01:37:38,600
realistic in assessing our state of

2193
01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:41,390
knowledge versus what we will know not

2194
01:37:46,900 --> 01:37:43,280
to fine the future I have a great

2195
01:37:49,300 --> 01:37:46,910
grandson he's sure gonna work grow up in

2196
01:37:51,250 --> 01:37:49,310
a very different world from this well

2197
01:37:54,580 --> 01:37:51,260
here's another question along those

2198
01:37:57,370 --> 01:37:54,590
lines one of our our posters on the

2199
01:37:59,440 --> 01:37:57,380
forums has asked what are your thoughts

2200
01:38:02,050 --> 01:37:59,450
on Nick cooks book on any Graff

2201
01:38:05,170 --> 01:38:02,060
technologies what what do you think our

2202
01:38:07,949 --> 01:38:05,180
level of attainment in that particular

2203
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:07,959
realm as the humans

2204
01:38:13,679 --> 01:38:11,170
really like I'm not as impressed on both

2205
01:38:15,239 --> 01:38:13,689
the Nazi stuff and others I think their

2206
01:38:16,919 --> 01:38:15,249
people don't realize there's a

2207
01:38:19,109 --> 01:38:16,929
difference between what we'd like to

2208
01:38:21,839 --> 01:38:19,119
build and here's a fancy drawing of it

2209
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:21,849
by our very sharp artists and what we

2210
01:38:30,020 --> 01:38:25,840
have built talk is cheap production is

2211
01:38:32,339 --> 01:38:30,030
not and I went into this all the time

2212
01:38:34,890 --> 01:38:32,349
you don't think there was a Nazi Saucer

2213
01:38:38,189 --> 01:38:34,900
program that's been co-opted by the US

2214
01:38:40,379 --> 01:38:38,199
and the Nazis were able to attain a

2215
01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:40,389
stable flight and in the rest of it and

2216
01:38:44,219 --> 01:38:42,159
when one of their crafts came out of

2217
01:38:45,569 --> 01:38:44,229
Argentina and crashed at Roswell and

2218
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:45,579
that's the secret the government doesn't

2219
01:38:48,989 --> 01:38:47,110
want us to know about that the Nazis

2220
01:38:51,839 --> 01:38:48,999
were still going strong no I don't buy

2221
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:51,849
it and partly because as I just said

2222
01:38:57,359 --> 01:38:54,130
they talked about drawings and sketches

2223
01:38:59,640 --> 01:38:57,369
and discussions of course the saucer is

2224
01:39:01,229 --> 01:38:59,650
an ideal craft and can take off and land

2225
01:39:04,469 --> 01:39:01,239
from a space not much bigger than itself

2226
01:39:06,359 --> 01:39:04,479
can move in all directions go this way

2227
01:39:08,819 --> 01:39:06,369
then that way straight up and down back

2228
01:39:10,229 --> 01:39:08,829
and forth ideal craft no question the

2229
01:39:12,540 --> 01:39:10,239
Germans would like to have built one

2230
01:39:15,449 --> 01:39:12,550
look at the avrocar Canadians were

2231
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:15,459
building onto but it didn't have the

2232
01:39:20,189 --> 01:39:18,130
proposal system you know it was

2233
01:39:25,199 --> 01:39:20,199
incapable of doing what saucers can do

2234
01:39:34,020 --> 01:39:25,209
even though it looked like a saucer feet

2235
01:39:35,660 --> 01:39:34,030
off the ground so you don't you don't

2236
01:39:37,770 --> 01:39:35,670
really think that we've made any

2237
01:39:40,199 --> 01:39:37,780
significant strides

2238
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:40,209
I guess technologically in the realm of

2239
01:39:44,879 --> 01:39:43,090
antigrav technology even even at this

2240
01:39:47,129 --> 01:39:44,889
point in history I don't think we've

2241
01:39:48,839 --> 01:39:47,139
reduced it to practice that has been

2242
01:39:52,319 --> 01:39:48,849
able to build systems I think we have

2243
01:39:52,649 --> 01:39:52,329
looked at magneto aerodynamic systems ma

2244
01:39:56,609 --> 01:39:52,659
D

2245
01:39:57,569 --> 01:39:56,619
I like the acronym well I say about me

2246
01:40:01,979 --> 01:39:57,579
all the time

2247
01:40:03,419 --> 01:40:01,989
ma D yeah it's you know I did a

2248
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:03,429
literature research when I was in

2249
01:40:09,209 --> 01:40:07,570
industry way back god 40 years ago only

2250
01:40:12,589 --> 01:40:09,219
government documents and that was the

2251
01:40:15,870 --> 01:40:12,599
key word magneto Carew dynamics I got

2252
01:40:17,699 --> 01:40:15,880
900 references this is not the open

2253
01:40:19,020 --> 01:40:17,709
scientific literature this is government

2254
01:40:20,219 --> 01:40:19,030
reports and they work on government

2255
01:40:21,480 --> 01:40:20,229
sponsored programs you gotta write

2256
01:40:24,510 --> 01:40:21,490
reports all kinds of

2257
01:40:26,310 --> 01:40:24,520
reports a quarterly semiannual and you

2258
01:40:30,270 --> 01:40:26,320
will you know technical and sauce are

2259
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:30,280
just stuff I got nine hundred hits if

2260
01:40:34,730 --> 01:40:32,650
you will nine hundred documents I had

2261
01:40:36,930 --> 01:40:34,740
abstracts for nine hundred documents

2262
01:40:40,010 --> 01:40:36,940
ninety percent of them were classified

2263
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:40,020
this is back in nineteen seventy magneto

2264
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:43,810
aerodynamics and so whether we have

2265
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:47,290
enhanced reduce the drag on here craft

2266
01:40:52,140 --> 01:40:49,930
by ionized craft it turns out you can

2267
01:40:54,570 --> 01:40:52,150
control its drag heating all kinds of

2268
01:40:57,300 --> 01:40:54,580
stuff and I'm sure we're working on that

2269
01:41:01,740 --> 01:40:57,310
technology and I'm sure we certainly

2270
01:41:04,230 --> 01:41:01,750
like to be able to use gravity control

2271
01:41:06,210 --> 01:41:04,240
if you will but I don't think we've

2272
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:06,220
accomplished it yet remember but the

2273
01:41:10,860 --> 01:41:07,930
only guys would know enough to do this

2274
01:41:13,050 --> 01:41:10,870
the military and once you build this

2275
01:41:15,300 --> 01:41:13,060
system you use it because you want to

2276
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:15,310
tell the other guy hey you watch out for

2277
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:17,290
us whether you will clobber you if you

2278
01:41:23,870 --> 01:41:20,530
attack us we use stealth fighters in a

2279
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:23,880
war go for and you know every other

2280
01:41:29,220 --> 01:41:26,290
high-tech development if you will we use

2281
01:41:30,990 --> 01:41:29,230
it well wouldn't that I mean we're

2282
01:41:33,420 --> 01:41:31,000
already so far ahead of everybody else

2283
01:41:34,740 --> 01:41:33,430
would conventional technology wouldn't

2284
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:34,750
that be a case of an ace in the hole

2285
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:36,130
that you only whip out if you absolutely

2286
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:39,010
have to well but I would dispute your

2287
01:41:43,380 --> 01:41:40,330
initial assumption

2288
01:41:46,110 --> 01:41:43,390
you know we underestimated a lot of

2289
01:41:47,850 --> 01:41:46,120
people general groves who was in charge

2290
01:41:53,430 --> 01:41:47,860
of the Manhattan Project to develop

2291
01:41:55,710 --> 01:41:53,440
atomic bombs in like 1948 said it would

2292
01:41:58,110 --> 01:41:55,720
be at least eight years before the

2293
01:41:59,640 --> 01:41:58,120
Russians could build an atomic bomb and

2294
01:42:00,840 --> 01:41:59,650
they don't have any methods for

2295
01:42:04,620 --> 01:42:00,850
delivering them either

2296
01:42:07,020 --> 01:42:04,630
well the 1949 August the Russians built

2297
01:42:08,940 --> 01:42:07,030
their first exploded their first atomic

2298
01:42:12,060 --> 01:42:08,950
bomb building is one thing exploding is

2299
01:42:14,190 --> 01:42:12,070
quite something else and they had copied

2300
01:42:15,890 --> 01:42:14,200
a b-29 that we had left over there and

2301
01:42:18,390 --> 01:42:15,900
they had means for delivering them

2302
01:42:22,110 --> 01:42:18,400
scariest memo I ever saw I've been to 20

2303
01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:22,120
archives some many times scariest memo

2304
01:42:27,930 --> 01:42:25,510
was a National Security Council item

2305
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:27,940
that have been Declassified in which it

2306
01:42:31,620 --> 01:42:30,130
was stated as the early 50s the Russians

2307
01:42:33,420 --> 01:42:31,630
had made more progress in the

2308
01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:33,430
development of nuclear weapons and

2309
01:42:37,620 --> 01:42:34,960
methods for delivering them

2310
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:37,630
in the last 18 months that had been

2311
01:42:42,270 --> 01:42:40,330
expected for five years don't think that

2312
01:42:44,910 --> 01:42:42,280
didn't scare there's a lot of people we

2313
01:42:46,860 --> 01:42:44,920
thought they were dumb peasants you know

2314
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:46,870
they didn't have the benefit of our

2315
01:42:51,180 --> 01:42:49,330
wonderful technology in society they did

2316
01:42:54,890 --> 01:42:51,190
have slave labor instead we had some

2317
01:42:58,980 --> 01:42:54,900
very smart people so what I'm saying is

2318
01:43:01,410 --> 01:42:58,990
we sit back and think we're on top of

2319
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:01,420
the heap the British did that too in the

2320
01:43:05,460 --> 01:43:03,010
history of the Second World War

2321
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:05,470
if you look at things like Dunkirk and

2322
01:43:10,500 --> 01:43:09,490
what happened down in Asia you know if

2323
01:43:12,750 --> 01:43:10,510
there hadn't been a lot of good

2324
01:43:15,210 --> 01:43:12,760
fishermen with little boats off the

2325
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:15,220
coast of France the Second World War

2326
01:43:18,750 --> 01:43:17,110
might have gone altogether differently

2327
01:43:20,850 --> 01:43:18,760
the Brits thought they had a lock on it

2328
01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:20,860
we got better armies and the Germans

2329
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:23,920
better tanks better planes simple matter

2330
01:43:28,020 --> 01:43:25,770
there is they didn't

2331
01:43:30,090 --> 01:43:28,030
Germans built the first jet engines even

2332
01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:30,100
though an English inventor this is

2333
01:43:34,620 --> 01:43:32,800
talked about in science was wrong even

2334
01:43:37,500 --> 01:43:34,630
when English inventor patent one years

2335
01:43:40,170 --> 01:43:37,510
before a German inventor did but they

2336
01:43:43,110 --> 01:43:40,180
built the first one and what a different

2337
01:43:46,170 --> 01:43:43,120
sound would have made and the Battle of

2338
01:43:47,940 --> 01:43:46,180
Britain so what I'm saying is it it's

2339
01:43:49,440 --> 01:43:47,950
easy to say we're ahead of everybody

2340
01:43:52,490 --> 01:43:49,450
remember there apparently have been

2341
01:43:55,860 --> 01:43:52,500
crashes elsewhere than the United States

2342
01:43:59,900 --> 01:43:55,870
you know kind of Brazil and other places

2343
01:44:02,550 --> 01:43:59,910
and so I wouldn't take it for granted

2344
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:02,560
that we are automatically ahead of

2345
01:44:07,260 --> 01:44:05,290
everybody else designs of weapons and

2346
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:07,270
defense technology yeah but the same

2347
01:44:12,300 --> 01:44:08,890
problem would apply there Stan wouldn't

2348
01:44:14,850 --> 01:44:12,310
it that if we have evidence of a highly

2349
01:44:17,970 --> 01:44:14,860
advanced technology the best scientists

2350
01:44:20,190 --> 01:44:17,980
we have here may only get you know the

2351
01:44:21,810 --> 01:44:20,200
rough edges you know some low-hanging

2352
01:44:26,430 --> 01:44:21,820
fruit and that's it we have Stanton

2353
01:44:36,710 --> 01:44:26,440
Friedman our co-host is Chris O'Brien

2354
01:44:42,030 --> 01:44:39,350
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2355
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:42,040
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2370
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2372
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2373
01:45:19,229 --> 01:45:17,560
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2374
01:45:21,090 --> 01:45:19,239
forcing taxes to service debt this

2375
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:21,100
capitalism was Jefferson correct when

2376
01:45:24,209 --> 01:45:22,570
stating a central bank issuing the

2377
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:24,219
public currency is a greater menace to

2378
01:45:26,700 --> 01:45:25,330
the liberties of the people than a

2379
01:45:28,140 --> 01:45:26,710
standing army today understand I'm

2380
01:45:29,970 --> 01:45:28,150
placing a free silver dollar in a book

2381
01:45:33,419 --> 01:45:29,980
that explains our monetary system call

2382
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:33,429
for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time

2383
01:45:45,270 --> 01:45:36,610
to understand the system call 866 to 237

2384
01:45:47,189 --> 01:45:45,280
that's 800 686 to 237 welcome back to

2385
01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:47,199
the podcast the gold standard of

2386
01:45:54,460 --> 01:45:50,560
paranormal radio and now here's gene

2387
01:46:00,440 --> 01:45:58,340
in the final hour we talked about the

2388
01:46:03,050 --> 01:46:00,450
low-hanging fruit that may be discovered

2389
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:03,060
by earthly science and coming in contact

2390
01:46:07,850 --> 01:46:05,610
with alien technology I'm Jean Steinberg

2391
01:46:10,250 --> 01:46:07,860
the co-host Chris O'Brien you're in the

2392
01:46:13,550 --> 01:46:10,260
para cast so that's the point basically

2393
01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:13,560
comes back to that again yes in Brazil

2394
01:46:22,010 --> 01:46:16,800
in the Soviet Union where ever they

2395
01:46:24,170 --> 01:46:22,020
recover evidence of alien craft which

2396
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:24,180
also means maybe you know the aliens are

2397
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:25,890
using the lowest bidder and building

2398
01:46:31,070 --> 01:46:27,530
that craft that's why they crash but

2399
01:46:32,810 --> 01:46:31,080
whatever the reason is though we

2400
01:46:34,610 --> 01:46:32,820
wouldn't learn very much from it how

2401
01:46:36,290 --> 01:46:34,620
would we get those inventions into

2402
01:46:38,690 --> 01:46:36,300
private industry it almost takes us back

2403
01:46:41,330 --> 01:46:38,700
to Corso but the basic issue being here

2404
01:46:44,780 --> 01:46:41,340
what would we even understand that is a

2405
01:46:46,820 --> 01:46:44,790
major issue and it's right now there's a

2406
01:46:49,730 --> 01:46:46,830
lot of work going on in nanotechnology

2407
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:49,740
for example and Nobel Prize was just

2408
01:46:55,970 --> 01:46:52,080
awarded two guys whose training was in

2409
01:46:59,420 --> 01:46:55,980
Russia incidentally for graphene the

2410
01:47:01,040 --> 01:46:59,430
very peculiar substance mono layer of

2411
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:01,050
carbon but it's got a tremendous

2412
01:47:06,050 --> 01:47:03,330
electrical properties very high spring

2413
01:47:08,420 --> 01:47:06,060
what I'm saying is here two totally new

2414
01:47:10,190 --> 01:47:08,430
areas and whether we learned about these

2415
01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:10,200
are not from aliens I don't think we did

2416
01:47:16,910 --> 01:47:12,960
but even if we said who knows what it's

2417
01:47:18,830 --> 01:47:16,920
going to be like in let's say five years

2418
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:18,840
with an awful lot of people spending an

2419
01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:20,480
awful lot of money and using

2420
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:22,860
nanoparticles to strengthen metals get

2421
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:24,810
incredible strength incredible

2422
01:47:29,930 --> 01:47:27,570
incredible electrical properties this is

2423
01:47:32,090 --> 01:47:29,940
there'll be a lot more we celebrated in

2424
01:47:35,300 --> 01:47:32,100
2010 was the fiftieth anniversary of the

2425
01:47:38,030 --> 01:47:35,310
discovery of the laser and it's a

2426
01:47:41,330 --> 01:47:38,040
ubiquitous I like to use that word once

2427
01:47:43,070 --> 01:47:41,340
a ring people say what's he talking

2428
01:47:44,870 --> 01:47:43,080
about well it's your supermarket counter

2429
01:47:47,540 --> 01:47:44,880
that's a laser that's reading those

2430
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:47,550
barcodes and your CD player that's a

2431
01:47:52,910 --> 01:47:51,210
laser that's reading your CD and you

2432
01:47:56,540 --> 01:47:52,920
know there are all kinds of applications

2433
01:47:58,640 --> 01:47:56,550
it's an incredible industry within 50

2434
01:48:00,890 --> 01:47:58,650
years of its original discovery and the

2435
01:48:02,900 --> 01:48:00,900
guys who discovered the laser or not the

2436
01:48:05,090 --> 01:48:02,910
guys who designed the units for the

2437
01:48:06,779 --> 01:48:05,100
checkout counter believe me they were in

2438
01:48:08,790 --> 01:48:06,789
other words application

2439
01:48:11,069 --> 01:48:08,800
and discover your to different things

2440
01:48:12,660 --> 01:48:11,079
and different kinds of skills but one of

2441
01:48:14,970 --> 01:48:12,670
the things that you gotta take into

2442
01:48:17,250 --> 01:48:14,980
account is how much money it takes to

2443
01:48:19,950 --> 01:48:17,260
take that big leak from a nice little

2444
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:19,960
scientific discovery what can we do with

2445
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:21,730
it you know and you know fake

2446
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:23,530
government-controlled the computer

2447
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:24,730
business we have a choice of four

2448
01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:27,489
different companies they'd have one ten

2449
01:48:30,959 --> 01:48:29,110
thousandth of the capability of the

2450
01:48:33,180 --> 01:48:30,969
computer I have on my desk and it's not

2451
01:48:36,029 --> 01:48:33,190
a very advanced I mean when I hear about

2452
01:48:39,410 --> 01:48:36,039
people buying memories with what is it

2453
01:48:41,939 --> 01:48:39,420
now you go megabytes gigabytes terabytes

2454
01:48:45,890 --> 01:48:41,949
you know hard drives with umpteen

2455
01:48:48,540 --> 01:48:45,900
terabytes and speeds of incredible stuff

2456
01:48:51,029 --> 01:48:48,550
it's not just the discovery its to

2457
01:48:53,580 --> 01:48:51,039
putting it to practice clever guy the

2458
01:48:55,770 --> 01:48:53,590
common axiom common axiom is that

2459
01:48:59,060 --> 01:48:55,780
computer is obsolete when the first one

2460
01:49:07,229 --> 01:48:59,070
comes off the assembly line basically

2461
01:49:10,229 --> 01:49:07,239
you know well here's another question

2462
01:49:11,939 --> 01:49:10,239
from one of our podcast forum members I

2463
01:49:14,370 --> 01:49:11,949
think it goes to a question that was

2464
01:49:16,890 --> 01:49:14,380
asked last time you were on the program

2465
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:16,900
and the question was about the gravity

2466
01:49:21,810 --> 01:49:19,840
probe B experiments and the results of

2467
01:49:23,790 --> 01:49:21,820
some of these experiments and the

2468
01:49:27,660 --> 01:49:23,800
implications for faster-than-light

2469
01:49:31,290 --> 01:49:27,670
travel speaking of Technology oh you

2470
01:49:34,950 --> 01:49:31,300
know are you up to speed on my comment

2471
01:49:37,950 --> 01:49:34,960
this but as in every other area whether

2472
01:49:41,939 --> 01:49:37,960
it's nanotechnology the other end of the

2473
01:49:44,759 --> 01:49:41,949
system so to speak or meat of life we

2474
01:49:47,220 --> 01:49:44,769
don't know all there is to know we do

2475
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:47,230
know which is sometimes forgotten by the

2476
01:49:52,109 --> 01:49:50,530
nasty noisy negative is that time slows

2477
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:52,119
down as you get close to the speed of

2478
01:49:57,569 --> 01:49:54,690
light that's not a trivial effect at

2479
01:49:59,910 --> 01:49:57,579
99.99% of the speed of light you can go

2480
01:50:01,890 --> 01:49:59,920
thirty-seven light-years in six months

2481
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:01,900
part of the time we've had guys no space

2482
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:04,090
six months guys and gals I think the

2483
01:50:08,069 --> 01:50:05,650
gals have finally caught up on that

2484
01:50:09,540 --> 01:50:08,079
score that's not a trivial thing and you

2485
01:50:14,339 --> 01:50:09,550
say well how do you go that fast well

2486
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:14,349
that large collider over in Europe the

2487
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:17,250
particles are going 99 and five-nines

2488
01:50:22,230 --> 01:50:19,090
percent of the speed of light

2489
01:50:24,900 --> 01:50:22,240
it's awful fast and the time change is

2490
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:24,910
very large now I'm not saying we're not

2491
01:50:30,990 --> 01:50:27,010
going to learn about warping space and

2492
01:50:32,460 --> 01:50:31,000
time you know using white wormholes and

2493
01:50:35,730 --> 01:50:32,470
all this kind of fling

2494
01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:35,740
those are nice theoretical areas we have

2495
01:50:40,710 --> 01:50:37,840
introduced them to practice but the fact

2496
01:50:43,830 --> 01:50:40,720
that we haven't done it yet we've got a

2497
01:50:46,020 --> 01:50:43,840
lot to learn and you know as I mentioned

2498
01:50:48,300 --> 01:50:46,030
to separate the isotopes of uranium to

2499
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:48,310
5% electrical power in the United States

2500
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:50,530
at the time there are other ways of

2501
01:50:56,940 --> 01:50:53,650
doing it now but they had to do it then

2502
01:50:59,610 --> 01:50:56,950
and so I expect we're going to be

2503
01:51:04,020 --> 01:50:59,620
learning but it's not going to be an

2504
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:04,030
easy or a cheap job to scale up to go

2505
01:51:07,740 --> 01:51:05,890
from the little tiny thing and then say

2506
01:51:10,530 --> 01:51:07,750
well how do we move a person you want to

2507
01:51:13,470 --> 01:51:10,540
move electrons go ahead how good is that

2508
01:51:15,570 --> 01:51:13,480
to me if I want to move a spaceship a

2509
01:51:18,420 --> 01:51:15,580
family of people to settle on a new

2510
01:51:20,190 --> 01:51:18,430
project I should throw one word of

2511
01:51:22,710 --> 01:51:20,200
caution here very often you will hear

2512
01:51:25,620 --> 01:51:22,720
people talking as if we need to go to

2513
01:51:27,210 --> 01:51:25,630
other galaxies is interviewed on a radio

2514
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:27,220
program a guy said when I was young I

2515
01:51:30,900 --> 01:51:28,690
thought how nice it would be to go to

2516
01:51:33,060 --> 01:51:30,910
Andromeda then I realized how much

2517
01:51:36,630 --> 01:51:33,070
energy it would take tell you something

2518
01:51:38,910 --> 01:51:36,640
I don't care at all about Andromeda I'm

2519
01:51:41,730 --> 01:51:38,920
interested in later Reticuli it's thirty

2520
01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:41,740
nine point three years away and dramas

2521
01:51:47,610 --> 01:51:44,080
two million light years away you know

2522
01:51:52,940 --> 01:51:47,620
there's a big difference so let's talk

2523
01:51:58,050 --> 01:51:55,470
well that begs a question about a secret

2524
01:52:00,540 --> 01:51:58,060
space program you know in the gary

2525
01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:00,550
mckinnon a very interesting little piece

2526
01:52:05,580 --> 01:52:03,520
of information with a list of off-planet

2527
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:05,590
officers and alike do you think we have

2528
01:52:10,620 --> 01:52:08,320
a a secret space program obviously the

2529
01:52:12,810 --> 01:52:10,630
military is involved heavily in space I

2530
01:52:14,850 --> 01:52:12,820
mean that's that's a pretty I think easy

2531
01:52:18,330 --> 01:52:14,860
assumption to make but do you think that

2532
01:52:20,370 --> 01:52:18,340
we have a very robust program that is

2533
01:52:22,440 --> 01:52:20,380
not known to the american people here or

2534
01:52:25,170 --> 01:52:22,450
the rest of the world that's a question

2535
01:52:26,820 --> 01:52:25,180
that i have to put in my gray basket not

2536
01:52:29,580 --> 01:52:26,830
enough data i would allow for that

2537
01:52:32,609 --> 01:52:29,590
possibility and we're talking huge bucks

2538
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:32,619
that what a Cheney's know runs

2539
01:52:38,010 --> 01:52:35,290
we couldn't account for - what was it

2540
01:52:40,290 --> 01:52:38,020
two trillion 2.2 trillion dollars

2541
01:52:44,570 --> 01:52:40,300
announced the day after or the day

2542
01:52:49,649 --> 01:52:44,580
before 9/11 strange how we forgot that

2543
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:49,659
that connection but what I'm what I'm

2544
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:51,730
saying is that I would allow for the

2545
01:52:58,859 --> 01:52:55,330
possibility I can't prove it it doesn't

2546
01:53:01,470 --> 01:52:58,869
exist I think it would be an enormous

2547
01:53:03,270 --> 01:53:01,480
secret wouldn't surprise me if we were

2548
01:53:04,979 --> 01:53:03,280
doing things in secret the other

2549
01:53:07,470 --> 01:53:04,989
question that comes up at the same time

2550
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:07,480
of courses are we working with the

2551
01:53:12,500 --> 01:53:10,449
aliens because I don't think anybody out

2552
01:53:15,149 --> 01:53:12,510
there is gonna let us get away with

2553
01:53:15,810 --> 01:53:15,159
roaming around spreading our brand of

2554
01:53:17,370 --> 01:53:15,820
friendship

2555
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:17,380
hostility everybody else calls it

2556
01:53:22,620 --> 01:53:20,110
without them saying hey buddy you're off

2557
01:53:24,780 --> 01:53:22,630
limits here we don't want you that

2558
01:53:26,850 --> 01:53:24,790
raises a big question sandwiches do you

2559
01:53:30,030 --> 01:53:26,860
think that any earthly government has

2560
01:53:32,910 --> 01:53:30,040
had direct contact with them you know

2561
01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:32,920
that's a much more interesting question

2562
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:35,110
or my answer would be much more positive

2563
01:53:40,530 --> 01:53:37,090
than what might have been a number of

2564
01:53:43,169 --> 01:53:40,540
years ago just to give two examples both

2565
01:53:45,180 --> 01:53:43,179
involving Eisenhower that strange thing

2566
01:53:46,919 --> 01:53:45,190
about being out in California and Palm

2567
01:53:48,780 --> 01:53:46,929
Springs in the press couldn't find him

2568
01:53:50,490 --> 01:53:48,790
and they got very worried he might have

2569
01:53:51,810 --> 01:53:50,500
had a heart attack you know he was

2570
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:51,820
playing golf what did what else did he

2571
01:53:55,410 --> 01:53:52,239
do

2572
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:55,420
he went to the dentist yeah the idea was

2573
01:53:59,040 --> 01:53:56,770
he'd gone to the dentist and he was

2574
01:54:00,839 --> 01:53:59,050
under anesthetic and of course they

2575
01:54:04,500 --> 01:54:00,849
didn't want to release that etc Sarah

2576
01:54:06,330 --> 01:54:04,510
well Bill Moore did a check on that he

2577
01:54:08,010 --> 01:54:06,340
checked in several different areas one

2578
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:08,020
he found the dentist wife the dentist

2579
01:54:11,939 --> 01:54:10,210
was dead she knew nothing about her

2580
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:11,949
husband having treated the prison which

2581
01:54:15,180 --> 01:54:13,570
seems a little strange you think that

2582
01:54:19,290 --> 01:54:15,190
would have been his biggest customer you

2583
01:54:23,310 --> 01:54:19,300
know most important one secondly he

2584
01:54:26,010 --> 01:54:23,320
checked the medical records of the

2585
01:54:28,700 --> 01:54:26,020
president and they keep very detailed

2586
01:54:32,399 --> 01:54:28,710
records on that there was no mention of

2587
01:54:34,709 --> 01:54:32,409
dental work being done and third they

2588
01:54:36,510 --> 01:54:34,719
checked the thank-you notes

2589
01:54:38,070 --> 01:54:36,520
everybody wants to get a thank-you note

2590
01:54:40,410 --> 01:54:38,080
signed by the president thanks for your

2591
01:54:42,930 --> 01:54:40,420
hospitality during our recent visit you

2592
01:54:44,310 --> 01:54:42,940
know vote for me next time whatever the

2593
01:54:46,290 --> 01:54:44,320
rest of that sentence

2594
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:46,300
in the work they thank you notes to the

2595
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:48,730
dentist either which seems very strange

2596
01:54:54,090 --> 01:54:51,850
so it is conceivable that that supposed

2597
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:54,100
meeting that Edwards Air Force Base

2598
01:55:00,750 --> 01:54:56,290
which isn't far from polish planes I

2599
01:55:05,730 --> 01:55:00,760
could have taken place art Campbell has

2600
01:55:11,700 --> 01:55:05,740
done some tremendous work on a story

2601
01:55:16,190 --> 01:55:11,710
about Mike being supposedly in Georgia

2602
01:55:20,850 --> 01:55:16,200
playing golf but the presidential plane

2603
01:55:22,500 --> 01:55:20,860
actually wound up going to New Mexico

2604
01:55:25,230 --> 01:55:22,510
I'll tell you what we get into our

2605
01:55:27,450 --> 01:55:25,240
Campbell and that research and where

2606
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:27,460
Eisenhower might have gone very shortly

2607
01:55:31,890 --> 01:55:29,770
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2608
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2640
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believed that the government is doing a

2641
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great job that the Fed will stop handing

2642
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out trillions of dollars like bailout

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2644
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2645
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that's not what's happening

2646
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2650
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2651
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the time to buy gold or the realists

2652
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2654
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2655
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the US Dollar Index has tanked 30% while

2656
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gold has risen three hundred percent

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right now savvy investors are adding

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Stan how his voice gets deeper and

2733
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:21,410
deeper and deeper every time we do that

2734
02:00:26,290 --> 02:00:23,570
station break Stanton Friedman joins us

2735
02:00:28,180 --> 02:00:26,300
longtime UFO investigator perhaps the

2736
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:28,190
Dean of UFO research because he's done

2737
02:00:33,070 --> 02:00:30,890
it for so long we have Chris O'Brien as

2738
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:33,080
the co-host um Jean Steinberger in the

2739
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:36,170
para cast and we are exploring what art

2740
02:00:40,630 --> 02:00:39,050
Campbell had learned about what

2741
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:40,640
Eisenhower might have done let's talk

2742
02:00:44,650 --> 02:00:42,410
further about the story before we look

2743
02:00:47,140 --> 02:00:44,660
at art Campbell and whether what he says

2744
02:00:49,540 --> 02:00:47,150
can be believed the story is that he

2745
02:00:51,250 --> 02:00:49,550
found out from my crewmen I guess who

2746
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:51,260
was on the plane of the president's

2747
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:53,810
plane and then from witnesses who were

2748
02:00:58,750 --> 02:00:56,810
at Holloman Air Force Base that I went

2749
02:01:02,260 --> 02:00:58,760
out there when he was supposedly playing

2750
02:01:05,470 --> 02:01:02,270
golf in Georgia and landed at one end of

2751
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:05,480
the airport landing fields more than an

2752
02:01:10,090 --> 02:01:07,970
airport there and there was a UFO at the

2753
02:01:13,780 --> 02:01:10,100
other end and there was a meeting

2754
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:13,790
between them now I found that he pursues

2755
02:01:20,350 --> 02:01:16,850
things very vigorously art does came up

2756
02:01:23,230 --> 02:01:20,360
with some very good evidence and what

2757
02:01:26,110 --> 02:01:23,240
I'm allowing for is the possibility do I

2758
02:01:28,630 --> 02:01:26,120
have a record of those negotiations no I

2759
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:28,640
do not for people who think that

2760
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:31,490
WikiLeaks releases everything you know

2761
02:01:35,590 --> 02:01:33,290
I've had people tell me well they

2762
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:35,600
haven't put out on the mj-12 stop stand

2763
02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:38,450
there must not be any the New York Times

2764
02:01:42,790 --> 02:01:39,850
said and they're cold

2765
02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:42,800
Koch cohorts with releasing data with

2766
02:01:50,050 --> 02:01:46,730
WikiLeaks the two hundred fifty thousand

2767
02:01:52,630 --> 02:01:50,060
pages fewer than 5% or classified and

2768
02:01:56,140 --> 02:01:52,640
number classified above secret the

2769
02:01:59,170 --> 02:01:56,150
private I think his name was Bradley who

2770
02:02:01,480 --> 02:01:59,180
released that stuff didn't have a need

2771
02:02:05,500 --> 02:02:01,490
to know for that whole network of people

2772
02:02:07,930 --> 02:02:05,510
who had access almost a million people

2773
02:02:10,180 --> 02:02:07,940
didn't have access need to know that we

2774
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:10,190
were talking about earlier there's no

2775
02:02:15,300 --> 02:02:12,890
top-secret stuff comin out of that so

2776
02:02:17,530 --> 02:02:15,310
governments can keep secrets

2777
02:02:19,420 --> 02:02:17,540
there's the Eisenhower library is

2778
02:02:23,130 --> 02:02:19,430
250,000 pages of classified material

2779
02:02:27,730 --> 02:02:23,140
even at offices 1961 for goodness sakes

2780
02:02:31,030 --> 02:02:27,740
50 years now I guess and we don't have

2781
02:02:33,220 --> 02:02:31,040
access to that so there can be an awful

2782
02:02:36,220 --> 02:02:33,230
lot of stuff going on memos of meetings

2783
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:36,230
etc etc that we have never seen probably

2784
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:38,690
never will see unless somebody cleans

2785
02:02:43,630 --> 02:02:40,610
house and I don't expect that to happen

2786
02:02:47,100 --> 02:02:43,640
so I allow room for their having been

2787
02:02:50,950 --> 02:02:47,110
negotiations not only between Ike and

2788
02:02:53,830 --> 02:02:50,960
Aliens I want people in the Soviet Union

2789
02:02:56,230 --> 02:02:53,840
maybe in China and whatever the stakes

2790
02:02:58,150 --> 02:02:56,240
are huge here the implications are you

2791
02:02:58,690 --> 02:02:58,160
serious all governments might have been

2792
02:03:01,500 --> 02:02:58,700
told

2793
02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:01,510
hey you idiots get your act together

2794
02:03:06,910 --> 02:03:03,890
remember that Bob Hastings has pointed

2795
02:03:10,180 --> 02:03:06,920
out that there were UFOs over a nuclear

2796
02:03:12,610 --> 02:03:10,190
installations in the Soviet Union as

2797
02:03:14,710 --> 02:03:12,620
well as other places and you know

2798
02:03:16,870 --> 02:03:14,720
regardless of what the reason is you

2799
02:03:20,260 --> 02:03:16,880
know to protect their gold confining or

2800
02:03:23,350 --> 02:03:20,270
whatever they're paying attention and I

2801
02:03:28,540 --> 02:03:23,360
think leaders of the planet don't want a

2802
02:03:29,950 --> 02:03:28,550
war a big war and I want to make a mess

2803
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:29,960
out of the point and I mean it's one

2804
02:03:36,460 --> 02:03:32,930
means of population control but probably

2805
02:03:39,700 --> 02:03:36,470
not the most effective me so long and

2806
02:03:41,110 --> 02:03:39,710
short of it is Stan you feel that some

2807
02:03:43,450 --> 02:03:41,120
of the earthly governments have had

2808
02:03:45,790 --> 02:03:43,460
direct contact with et and they really

2809
02:03:48,940 --> 02:03:45,800
know what's going on or at least what et

2810
02:03:50,980 --> 02:03:48,950
chooses to tell them yeah oh yeah I'm

2811
02:03:54,300 --> 02:03:50,990
not I'm not saying at all that I would

2812
02:03:56,140 --> 02:03:54,310
expect DTS to fill the years of

2813
02:03:59,620 --> 02:03:56,150
politicians on earth that's what's

2814
02:04:02,560 --> 02:03:59,630
really going on but I think that we need

2815
02:04:05,350 --> 02:04:02,570
to recognize that were part of a

2816
02:04:07,210 --> 02:04:05,360
galactic neighborhood yeah but we don't

2817
02:04:09,580 --> 02:04:07,220
go active neighborhood and you've said

2818
02:04:12,070 --> 02:04:09,590
this before on the show and forgive me

2819
02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:12,080
for the interruption but what about a

2820
02:04:15,070 --> 02:04:14,210
galactic dimension what about other

2821
02:04:17,110 --> 02:04:15,080
dimensions

2822
02:04:18,940 --> 02:04:17,120
what about UFOs coming from

2823
02:04:22,660 --> 02:04:18,950
the future what about all these other

2824
02:04:25,690 --> 02:04:22,670
possibilities does it have to be ET from

2825
02:04:27,250 --> 02:04:25,700
another star system etc well I'm not

2826
02:04:28,690 --> 02:04:27,260
saying it has to be and I'm not saying

2827
02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:28,700
there aren't the other kinds but we

2828
02:04:34,390 --> 02:04:32,210
clearly have technological devices big

2829
02:04:36,610 --> 02:04:34,400
ones motherships

2830
02:04:38,770 --> 02:04:36,620
space characters for everyone and though

2831
02:04:41,770 --> 02:04:38,780
once it's run around the planet you know

2832
02:04:44,140 --> 02:04:41,780
so I'm not leaving out the possibility

2833
02:04:45,790 --> 02:04:44,150
of those other things but I don't think

2834
02:04:48,610 --> 02:04:45,800
they're required to explain the

2835
02:04:50,860 --> 02:04:48,620
situation also but the other question is

2836
02:04:52,660 --> 02:04:50,870
about the reality of what we're seeing

2837
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:52,670
are we seeing what's really going on is

2838
02:04:57,130 --> 02:04:54,890
it a holographic projection do we look

2839
02:04:59,860 --> 02:04:57,140
at the holodeck and Star Trek and say

2840
02:05:01,570 --> 02:04:59,870
hey they could project things that we

2841
02:05:04,210 --> 02:05:01,580
could even touch but it's not really

2842
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:04,220
there I will allow room for that

2843
02:05:09,430 --> 02:05:05,810
technology but we have enough cases

2844
02:05:11,740 --> 02:05:09,440
where they show up on radar where there

2845
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:11,750
have been crashes like Roswell and the

2846
02:05:18,780 --> 02:05:14,570
plains of san agustin we have enough

2847
02:05:22,930 --> 02:05:18,790
cases a real hunks of stuff if you will

2848
02:05:26,260 --> 02:05:22,940
that are around to say that while there

2849
02:05:27,610 --> 02:05:26,270
may be other means of cloaking legacy

2850
02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:27,620
how the heck do you go through a window

2851
02:05:30,910 --> 02:05:29,450
without breaking a window I don't know

2852
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:30,920
how to do that

2853
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:33,290
maybe that only seems that way to the

2854
02:05:37,420 --> 02:05:35,090
person who's taken through the window I

2855
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:37,430
don't know I'm not saying that this is

2856
02:05:42,430 --> 02:05:40,130
all inclusive I'm saying we know

2857
02:05:45,460 --> 02:05:42,440
something about the real 3d world in

2858
02:05:47,830 --> 02:05:45,470
which we live compared to advanced

2859
02:05:50,170 --> 02:05:47,840
civilization a lot more than we know 60

2860
02:05:52,900 --> 02:05:50,180
years ago so that's for sure

2861
02:05:57,730 --> 02:05:52,910
so I leave room for all that other stuff

2862
02:05:59,560 --> 02:05:57,740
I'm not saying only UFOs some UFOs or

2863
02:06:01,900 --> 02:05:59,570
alien spacecraft that's what I'm saying

2864
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:01,910
if you ask me are some time travelers

2865
02:06:06,430 --> 02:06:04,730
it's a could be are some secret

2866
02:06:08,530 --> 02:06:06,440
government systems sure

2867
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:08,540
and what about crypto terrestrials the

2868
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:11,210
theory from such people as the late Mac

2869
02:06:15,670 --> 02:06:13,130
Tony's that there is an advanced

2870
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:15,680
civilization here maybe it came from

2871
02:06:23,130 --> 02:06:19,010
space but it's here now based here now

2872
02:06:25,900 --> 02:06:23,140
I found far less evidence for that

2873
02:06:28,870 --> 02:06:25,910
underground you know why do you build a

2874
02:06:30,549 --> 02:06:28,880
ship capable of going up up and away if

2875
02:06:32,799 --> 02:06:30,559
your base is under the

2876
02:06:36,339 --> 02:06:32,809
around and how do you do it where's the

2877
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:36,349
technology for manufacturing metals you

2878
02:06:41,500 --> 02:06:39,050
can mine them underground maybe but it's

2879
02:06:44,919 --> 02:06:41,510
one heck of a big facility you know you

2880
02:06:46,629 --> 02:06:44,929
look at a 747 for example and an awful

2881
02:06:49,719 --> 02:06:46,639
lot of work went into making that metal

2882
02:06:53,139 --> 02:06:49,729
refining it you know mining it refining

2883
02:06:56,229 --> 02:06:53,149
it shaping it putting it together that

2884
02:06:58,270 --> 02:06:56,239
doesn't come easy and so that there have

2885
02:07:00,399 --> 02:06:58,280
been secret civilizations on the planet

2886
02:07:04,209 --> 02:07:00,409
we know that we keep finding a tribe

2887
02:07:06,459 --> 02:07:04,219
here a tribe there I'm not disputing

2888
02:07:08,319 --> 02:07:06,469
that but I don't think that's a major

2889
02:07:11,859 --> 02:07:08,329
explanation for what people are

2890
02:07:13,569 --> 02:07:11,869
observing that are abducting earthlings

2891
02:07:16,799 --> 02:07:13,579
that are flying around military planes

2892
02:07:18,369 --> 02:07:16,809
that are zipping around hither and yon

2893
02:07:21,549 --> 02:07:18,379
those seemed to be real

2894
02:07:23,889 --> 02:07:21,559
three-dimensional extraterrestrial now

2895
02:07:26,409 --> 02:07:23,899
I'm not saying other galaxies I want to

2896
02:07:28,659 --> 02:07:26,419
stress that just down the street some

2897
02:07:31,299 --> 02:07:28,669
from Zeta Reticuli my favorite place to

2898
02:07:34,029 --> 02:07:31,309
go if you're gonna give me a vacation

2899
02:07:35,709 --> 02:07:34,039
trip that's where I'd like them go they

2900
02:07:40,659 --> 02:07:35,719
don't come from the Goldilocks planet

2901
02:07:43,989 --> 02:07:40,669
then but isn't it interesting how more

2902
02:07:45,339 --> 02:07:43,999
and more we see these developments where

2903
02:07:48,790 --> 02:07:45,349
we learn about more and more planets

2904
02:07:51,790 --> 02:07:48,800
that may be close to being earth-like or

2905
02:07:53,349 --> 02:07:51,800
at least acceptable within that M planet

2906
02:07:56,759 --> 02:07:53,359
range you know there used to talk about

2907
02:08:00,609 --> 02:07:56,769
in Star Trek that maybe these will house

2908
02:08:02,349 --> 02:08:00,619
beings that can produce advanced

2909
02:08:04,149 --> 02:08:02,359
civilizations maybe they're somewhat

2910
02:08:08,079 --> 02:08:04,159
close to us or maybe they're based on

2911
02:08:10,750 --> 02:08:08,089
Arsenic and Old Lace theory that you've

2912
02:08:12,399 --> 02:08:10,760
heard about recently yeah well let me go

2913
02:08:13,359 --> 02:08:12,409
back to something know about these earth

2914
02:08:16,529 --> 02:08:13,369
sized planets

2915
02:08:18,639 --> 02:08:16,539
yes you do that but we do have to

2916
02:08:21,309 --> 02:08:18,649
basically we have to communicate with

2917
02:08:23,079 --> 02:08:21,319
the psychic beings who spawn through

2918
02:08:26,020 --> 02:08:23,089
this show because they won't leave

2919
02:08:28,089 --> 02:08:26,030
they'll be very upset if we don't we

2920
02:08:30,189 --> 02:08:28,099
have Stanton Friedman joining us Chris

2921
02:08:35,450 --> 02:08:30,199
O'Brien is the co-host I'm gene

2922
02:08:35,460 --> 02:08:40,380
[Music]

2923
02:08:46,570 --> 02:08:44,440
is there a secret UFO agenda to strange

2924
02:08:49,060 --> 02:08:46,580
creatures from the darkest corners of

2925
02:08:51,730 --> 02:08:49,070
the mind roam the earth is there

2926
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:51,740
evidence for mind control time travel

2927
02:08:57,190 --> 02:08:55,370
are devious government conspiracies find

2928
02:09:00,250 --> 02:08:57,200
out the inside scoop on the latest

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gcn radio networks hi this is ted

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phillips listening to the para cast and

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two more segments with Stanton Friedman

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a longtime UFO researcher I'm Jean

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Steinberg the co-host is Chris O'Brien

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you're in the para cast and now you were

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about to tell us Stan well there's some

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very recent work by dr. Marcy and his

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associate among the earliest of the

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other planet finders the exoplanet dies

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and they looked at a whole bunch of

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stories and over a hundred of them they

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looked at ones that had multiple planets

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not just one per star and what they

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found was if you tabulate how many

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planets you have and what size those

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planets are it appears that the smaller

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02:13:50,630 --> 02:13:48,060
you get on the planets the more there

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02:13:53,480 --> 02:13:50,640
will be and they figure about a quarter

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02:13:55,310 --> 02:13:53,490
of the planets will be earth size we

3040
02:13:57,980 --> 02:13:55,320
just haven't been able to see most of

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02:13:59,180 --> 02:13:57,990
them because the smaller they are the

3042
02:14:03,110 --> 02:13:59,190
harder they are to see with our

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02:14:06,230 --> 02:14:03,120
present-day equipment and you know we're

3044
02:14:09,410 --> 02:14:06,240
getting better at it but that was a very

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02:14:11,900 --> 02:14:09,420
exciting finding that you know they're

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02:14:13,940 --> 02:14:11,910
gonna be a lot of little ones not just

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jupiter-sized planets and you know

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02:14:17,810 --> 02:14:15,900
they're over 500 so far and there's

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02:14:20,780 --> 02:14:17,820
gonna be a much greater number than that

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02:14:23,330 --> 02:14:20,790
and the guys who originally did the work

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02:14:25,850 --> 02:14:23,340
who first found the exoplanets we're

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02:14:28,070 --> 02:14:25,860
ridiculed there's no possible way you

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could see a planet around the star star

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so bright it would totally the light

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from the star would totally obscure

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anything you could get from the planet

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whenever science tells us Stan you can't

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do that that often is the proof that you

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02:14:44,150 --> 02:14:42,090
can if you just know the right way of

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02:14:46,970 --> 02:14:44,160
doing it and you eventually you figure

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02:14:49,070 --> 02:14:46,980
it out more or less yeah that's true and

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02:14:52,610 --> 02:14:49,080
so what I'm saying is that this changes

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02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:52,620
our whole picture and what flying

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02:15:00,590 --> 02:14:55,290
saucers represent the next step from

3065
02:15:03,110 --> 02:15:00,600
going from zero told me to Copernicus

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and we finished the job that Copernicus

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started at taking men out of the center

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02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:07,470
of the universe we're unique we're at

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the top of the heap remember his book

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wasn't published until 1543 the year he

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died so it's been for three

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but they didn't that burn him at the

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stake that was reserved for Giordano

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Bruno and so now we know we're not only

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not the center of the universe and we're

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not the center of the galaxy and we're

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02:15:33,850 --> 02:15:32,430
not the most advanced place in our local

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02:15:37,060 --> 02:15:33,860
neighborhood unless you believe that

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02:15:40,460 --> 02:15:37,070
Bishop Ussher was right when he said

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4004 BC I think was October 23rd on a

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02:15:44,510 --> 02:15:42,060
Thursday afternoon the whole world was

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created and we have to point out that he

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left out about six zeros there instead

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02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:49,940
of four thousand four for a billionaire

3085
02:15:56,270 --> 02:15:53,730
but what I'm getting at is the picture

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02:15:59,360 --> 02:15:56,280
that emerges of our even our local

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02:16:02,240 --> 02:15:59,370
neighborhood and we're just beginning to

3088
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:02,250
Wow over five hundred exoplanets you

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02:16:06,290 --> 02:16:03,930
know that 50 years ago we didn't think

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02:16:08,030 --> 02:16:06,300
there were any exoplanets we hadn't seen

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02:16:12,610 --> 02:16:08,040
any and if we can't see them they ain't

3092
02:16:14,980 --> 02:16:12,620
there right wrong we got to change our

3093
02:16:19,160 --> 02:16:14,990
telescope so to speak

3094
02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:19,170
so yeah the and this whole Goldilocks

3095
02:16:23,540 --> 02:16:21,450
business there's no question that the

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02:16:25,600 --> 02:16:23,550
press is recognized that the public is

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02:16:29,560 --> 02:16:25,610
very interested in this sort of stuff

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02:16:31,550 --> 02:16:29,570
life out there man not alone you know

3099
02:16:33,680 --> 02:16:31,560
there's no question there's a lot of

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02:16:35,540 --> 02:16:33,690
excitement about that there's also no

3101
02:16:39,530 --> 02:16:35,550
question that these guys are all anxious

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02:16:43,700 --> 02:16:39,540
to get funds for more research I hate to

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02:16:45,350 --> 02:16:43,710
imply that scientists versus would try

3104
02:16:49,100 --> 02:16:45,360
to make a lot of noise about something

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02:16:52,220 --> 02:16:49,110
like the arsenic business that you refer

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02:16:55,640 --> 02:16:52,230
to a little bit ago for the idea of

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getting more research funds but you know

3108
02:17:02,120 --> 02:17:00,000
I just did a column about that and the

3109
02:17:03,410 --> 02:17:02,130
use of the word alien that the column

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hasn't been published yet but it should

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be soon no alien excites people and the

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02:17:11,900 --> 02:17:10,260
press uses it wherever they can except

3113
02:17:13,520 --> 02:17:11,910
they don't want to talk about flying

3114
02:17:15,589 --> 02:17:13,530
saucers they don't want to talk about

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02:17:20,930 --> 02:17:15,599
alien beings they might talk about the

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02:17:24,830 --> 02:17:20,940
aliens from Mexico and the aliens the

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02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:24,840
alien life-forms that use arsenic when

3118
02:17:29,190 --> 02:17:27,040
that article came out incidentally

3119
02:17:32,220 --> 02:17:29,200
in science magazine there are a number

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of people who rebuild and publish

3121
02:17:36,209 --> 02:17:33,910
negative comments about they thought the

3122
02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:36,219
research was terribly flawed this is

3123
02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:38,410
over in Mono Lake in California which is

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02:17:42,810 --> 02:17:41,290
a conclude your place anyway it's kind

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02:17:45,660 --> 02:17:42,820
of off from water supplies from other

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02:17:47,549 --> 02:17:45,670
bodies so that the level of different

3127
02:17:50,580 --> 02:17:47,559
elements in the lake is quite different

3128
02:17:52,230 --> 02:17:50,590
from what it is other places and they

3129
02:17:53,940 --> 02:17:52,240
thought the experiments were poorly done

3130
02:17:56,610 --> 02:17:53,950
that they hadn't established that the

3131
02:17:58,440 --> 02:17:56,620
arsenic had been in to the DNA rather

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02:18:00,180 --> 02:17:58,450
than phosphate of there's very high

3133
02:18:03,870 --> 02:18:00,190
levels of phosphate in that water until

3134
02:18:06,230 --> 02:18:03,880
you see but it got a tremendous amount

3135
02:18:09,030 --> 02:18:06,240
of play didn't it from the news media

3136
02:18:11,930 --> 02:18:09,040
it's okay to talk about that but not

3137
02:18:14,970 --> 02:18:11,940
about flying saucers folks that's

3138
02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:14,980
science fiction here's here's another

3139
02:18:19,589 --> 02:18:17,410
question from one of our forum posters

3140
02:18:21,360 --> 02:18:19,599
this you know we've kind of covered this

3141
02:18:24,750 --> 02:18:21,370
ground a little bit before but let's

3142
02:18:26,820 --> 02:18:24,760
let's assume for a second that the

3143
02:18:29,100 --> 02:18:26,830
governments of the world especially the

3144
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:29,110
US and Canadian governments governments

3145
02:18:35,910 --> 02:18:32,110
for instance are are in the dark to some

3146
02:18:37,740 --> 02:18:35,920
degree about the UFO phenomenon and the

3147
02:18:39,540 --> 02:18:37,750
question is what cost-effective

3148
02:18:42,120 --> 02:18:39,550
investigative method dealing with this

3149
02:18:43,320 --> 02:18:42,130
phenomenon would you propose to the US

3150
02:18:45,629 --> 02:18:43,330
or Canadian governments with a

3151
02:18:47,910 --> 02:18:45,639
comprehensive two year radar tracking

3152
02:18:50,610 --> 02:18:47,920
pilot observation survey be enough for

3153
02:18:53,730 --> 02:18:50,620
instance or do we need like a blue book

3154
02:18:56,220 --> 02:18:53,740
to the 2011 edition to do a better job

3155
02:18:58,320 --> 02:18:56,230
that's the question I think we kind of

3156
02:19:00,419 --> 02:18:58,330
covered this ground before but let's

3157
02:19:02,580 --> 02:19:00,429
let's go on the assumption that that the

3158
02:19:05,010 --> 02:19:02,590
government is as confused as we are if

3159
02:19:07,260 --> 02:19:05,020
not more so because they know more how

3160
02:19:10,910 --> 02:19:07,270
would you advise them to to do an

3161
02:19:13,950 --> 02:19:10,920
effective job studying this phenomenon

3162
02:19:17,040 --> 02:19:13,960
well there's this in terms of the

3163
02:19:18,600 --> 02:19:17,050
research the first step is easy let's

3164
02:19:21,930 --> 02:19:18,610
look at the data that government already

3165
02:19:25,709 --> 02:19:21,940
has we don't know about remember general

3166
02:19:27,720 --> 02:19:25,719
Carrol Bohlander my favorite guys he's

3167
02:19:30,570 --> 02:19:27,730
the one whose memo resulted in the

3168
02:19:32,640 --> 02:19:30,580
closure of Project Blue Book in 1969 he

3169
02:19:34,560 --> 02:19:32,650
had no previous connection but that he

3170
02:19:36,930 --> 02:19:34,570
was asked he had just he worked on the

3171
02:19:39,419 --> 02:19:36,940
lunar excursion module program we

3172
02:19:40,919 --> 02:19:39,429
successfully landed on the moon yes I do

3173
02:19:45,899 --> 02:19:40,929
believe we did

3174
02:19:52,170 --> 02:19:45,909
in July 1969 and so it wasn't Stanley

3175
02:19:54,330 --> 02:19:52,180
Kubrick on an on a set no he's made many

3176
02:19:56,120 --> 02:19:54,340
interesting photos on sense but not this

3177
02:19:58,590 --> 02:19:56,130
one anyway

3178
02:19:59,819 --> 02:19:58,600
Bohlander was asking what should we do

3179
02:20:01,590 --> 02:19:59,829
about Project Blue Book because the

3180
02:20:03,239 --> 02:20:01,600
Condon committee recommended and it

3181
02:20:05,189 --> 02:20:03,249
because it wasn't accomplishing anything

3182
02:20:08,010 --> 02:20:05,199
they weren't right about that score but

3183
02:20:09,719 --> 02:20:08,020
and remember what he said was at reports

3184
02:20:14,449 --> 02:20:09,729
of UFOs which could affect national

3185
02:20:18,649 --> 02:20:14,459
security are made in accordance with

3186
02:20:21,569 --> 02:20:18,659
what's the name of the memo memo jaina

3187
02:20:26,189 --> 02:20:21,579
joint Army Navy Air Force publication

3188
02:20:30,569 --> 02:20:26,199
146 or Air Force manual 55 - 11 and are

3189
02:20:34,229 --> 02:20:30,579
not part of the Blue Book system -

3190
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:34,239
paragraph later he said if we close

3191
02:20:37,260 --> 02:20:36,010
Project Blue Book the public won't have

3192
02:20:39,719 --> 02:20:37,270
a place to report a sighting

3193
02:20:41,389 --> 02:20:39,729
however as previously noted reports

3194
02:20:45,479 --> 02:20:41,399
which could affect national security

3195
02:20:47,099 --> 02:20:45,489
will continue to be investigated using

3196
02:20:49,649 --> 02:20:47,109
the procedures established for that

3197
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purpose the regulations isn't that so

3198
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nice of them well I talked to him 10

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years later a Bourdon that probably he's

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dead now incidentally I checked and I

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said you're saying there were two

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separate channels of communication you

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said yes and so the example I use if

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Command base where nuclear weapons are

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stored that's a national security matter

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if you and I are standing at the end of

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around and we look up and see a saucer

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go by big deal it happens all over the

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place so when I begun to you you've

3212
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never seen a UFO if I remember correctly

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that's right you're absolutely right

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I've never even seen Tokyo and what's

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your motivation

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how do you know Tokyo exists it's just

3217
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an illusion well you know what's gonna

3218
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happen now is we're gonna get letters

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from listeners in Tokyo and we have them

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who are gonna say how could you say

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Tokyo doesn't exist well I haven't been

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there Stan hasn't been there I don't

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think Chris has you know I haven't been

3224
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Iceland either

3225
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you know I haven't been to Madrid Spain

3226
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but I know it exists because my son

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lives there and I talked to him every

3228
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few days and I said Gracie where are you

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I'm in Madrid and they said how do I

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know that Madrid exists and he says

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we'll check the phone number it's a

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cast calm where our final segment with

3341
02:27:14,810 --> 02:27:12,750
Stanton Friedman co-host is Chris

3342
02:27:17,210 --> 02:27:14,820
O'Brien I'm Jean Steinberg you're in the

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power cast and you were about to pick up

3344
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on something well yeah that the first

3345
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step to find out more is having the

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government release what it already has

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we've had all the good systems for

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obtaining scientific data about flybys

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of advanced alien spacecraft our

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monitored or owned or controlled

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operated by the United States government

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that's in the United States I mean we

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02:27:45,290 --> 02:27:41,700
land what's going on elsewhere that is

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the the radar networks the cameras and

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radar installations on board military

3356
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aircraft chasing UFOs the spy satellites

3357
02:27:55,070 --> 02:27:53,310
you know the LRO and those guys those

3358
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guys build satellites sometimes it cost

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half a billion dollars you know the ones

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that can read the license plate and the

3361
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Kremlin parking lot I'm told we control

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we had Ranma Guerin who was part of that

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effort in the optics side of that

3364
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equation we have impressive equipment

3365
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wouldn't you agree oh yeah what I'm

3366
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saying is if you want to know more

3367
02:28:16,880 --> 02:28:15,210
you've got to find out the data we

3368
02:28:19,250 --> 02:28:16,890
already have what do you need more data

3369
02:28:22,130 --> 02:28:19,260
for when we already have measurements

3370
02:28:24,350 --> 02:28:22,140
observations analysis of wreckage all

3371
02:28:26,090 --> 02:28:24,360
kinds of things now it would be nice if

3372
02:28:28,880 --> 02:28:26,100
we could open that up for the whole

3373
02:28:30,740 --> 02:28:28,890
world to find out what's going on again

3374
02:28:32,690 --> 02:28:30,750
the military implications are rather

3375
02:28:34,370 --> 02:28:32,700
substantial you know just to some

3376
02:28:35,870 --> 02:28:34,380
political ones when people say well

3377
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we'll hold an election to see who speaks

3378
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for the product sorry

3379
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China has 1.3 billion people India

3380
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billion we the United States only has

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what 309 million when I can hold an

3382
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election one person one vote but what

3383
02:28:52,610 --> 02:28:49,620
I'm saying is why do you need to dredge

3384
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up more data when we already have a huge

3385
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amount that we don't have access to

3386
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we're kind of getting to the end of this

3387
02:29:01,790 --> 02:28:59,640
year and I wanted to get to some more

3388
02:29:04,550 --> 02:29:01,800
questions anything left in the bin Chris

3389
02:29:06,679 --> 02:29:04,560
well other than a question about dealing

3390
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with alien abductions in a manner

3391
02:29:11,779 --> 02:29:08,880
suggested by Carla Turner which is to

3392
02:29:14,029 --> 02:29:11,789
pray at them and maybe they'll go away

3393
02:29:16,609 --> 02:29:14,039
other than that I think we we've emptied

3394
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the bin I think that you know there may

3395
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be an element to that we were talking

3396
02:29:22,249 --> 02:29:20,429
earlier about telepathy and mine

3397
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mind over matter and all this kind of

3398
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stuff when it really got home to me it

3399
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was when I was standing with Kathleen

3400
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Martin where the hill case took place

3401
02:29:32,869 --> 02:29:30,509
where the craft was a hundred feet over

3402
02:29:34,609 --> 02:29:32,879
this their car and Barney's looking

3403
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through binoculars at the craft and

3404
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seeing the beings through the double row

3405
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of windows on the craft the important

3406
02:29:43,189 --> 02:29:41,459
point is what he did after that was he'd

3407
02:29:45,379 --> 02:29:43,199
get off the main highway onto a

3408
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secondary road and then went off onto a

3409
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dirt road out in the middle of nowhere

3410
02:29:52,099 --> 02:29:49,679
now there is no way in the world

3411
02:29:54,529 --> 02:29:52,109
Barney would have done that on his own

3412
02:29:57,919 --> 02:29:54,539
it's totally out of character it's

3413
02:30:00,499 --> 02:29:57,929
irrational it's illogical and they wind

3414
02:30:02,419 --> 02:30:00,509
up on this dirt road right alongside the

3415
02:30:04,969 --> 02:30:02,429
only area they're big enough for a craft

3416
02:30:06,979 --> 02:30:04,979
to set down in and my feeling just

3417
02:30:09,289 --> 02:30:06,989
standing there with somebody was sending

3418
02:30:12,379 --> 02:30:09,299
him a message and controlling him and

3419
02:30:15,379 --> 02:30:12,389
directing him so you know when it comes

3420
02:30:18,139 --> 02:30:15,389
to abductions they obviously know how to

3421
02:30:21,129 --> 02:30:18,149
control us now maybe some of us if 20 of

3422
02:30:24,529 --> 02:30:21,139
us got together and aimed our mental

3423
02:30:26,869 --> 02:30:24,539
arrows with our mental swings that the

3424
02:30:29,419 --> 02:30:26,879
aliens we might have some impact who

3425
02:30:31,639 --> 02:30:29,429
knows there are maybe exceptional people

3426
02:30:34,029 --> 02:30:31,649
here who are able to really send

3427
02:30:36,799 --> 02:30:34,039
powerful messages I don't know that's

3428
02:30:40,729 --> 02:30:36,809
that's what he's been doing coherent

3429
02:30:43,129 --> 02:30:40,739
thoughts sequencing you know let's be

3430
02:30:45,139 --> 02:30:43,139
more coherent here we are obviously in

3431
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the final segment here kind of wrap it

3432
02:30:49,869 --> 02:30:48,179
up here and is there something anyone

3433
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can do if we assume the government's

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know some of these secrets how do we

3435
02:30:57,889 --> 02:30:55,559
make them open up their mouths and tell

3436
02:30:59,510 --> 02:30:57,899
us I mean if you go back to the 1950s as

3437
02:31:01,909 --> 02:30:59,520
I've mentioned a few times in the show

3438
02:31:05,059 --> 02:31:01,919
major Donald Kehoe was looking for his

3439
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brand of disclosure this is in all his

3440
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book starting with flying saucers from

3441
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outer space in 1950 flying saucer

3442
02:31:15,319 --> 02:31:11,969
conspiracy I want disclosure it's 2011

3443
02:31:17,479 --> 02:31:15,329
we haven't gotten it is the realization

3444
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that there are possibly inhabited

3445
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planets in other parts of the galaxy

3446
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other parts near star systems etc is

3447
02:31:25,060 --> 02:31:24,329
that part of disclosure or just a

3448
02:31:27,011 --> 02:31:25,070
natural

3449
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currents of science where does it go I

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think it's getting us ready for that I

3451
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mean it makes it much more most people

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now I find believe that there's other

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life out there in the galactic

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neighborhood it feel weld in the

3455
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universe that wasn't very popular notion

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remember wasn't too many years ago that

3457
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we were taught that the events have

3458
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produced the planets in our solar system

3459
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were so rare and your collision between

3460
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two stars that never happened anyplace

3461
02:31:54,940 --> 02:31:53,511
else now we know Oh planet solar how

3462
02:31:57,490 --> 02:31:54,950
many oh well we got five hundred over

3463
02:32:01,631 --> 02:31:57,500
here discovering new ones every month or

3464
02:32:03,251 --> 02:32:01,641
so so times have changed what I think it

3465
02:32:05,410 --> 02:32:03,261
would take and it would be interesting

3466
02:32:07,900 --> 02:32:05,420
to see if anybody has guts enough to do

3467
02:32:09,640 --> 02:32:07,910
it would be the attempt the effort that

3468
02:32:11,261 --> 02:32:09,650
was spent on the political Watergate

3469
02:32:13,301 --> 02:32:11,271
breaking that story loose by The

3470
02:32:15,400 --> 02:32:13,311
Washington Post spent on growing a

3471
02:32:17,501 --> 02:32:15,410
little off the cosmic Watergate there's

3472
02:32:20,410 --> 02:32:17,511
all kinds of data there which the major

3473
02:32:22,180 --> 02:32:20,420
media have not touched look at the

3474
02:32:24,761 --> 02:32:22,190
blacked out documents the whited out

3475
02:32:27,671 --> 02:32:24,771
documents look at the Bolender memo and

3476
02:32:30,490 --> 02:32:27,681
if we could get people who already know

3477
02:32:31,450 --> 02:32:30,500
to come forward without fear of being

3478
02:32:35,110 --> 02:32:31,460
punished

3479
02:32:36,730 --> 02:32:35,120
you know amnesty what's that word we

3480
02:32:40,001 --> 02:32:36,740
don't hear that often but I'd like to

3481
02:32:43,060 --> 02:32:40,011
see amnesty for guys for example I have

3482
02:32:46,360 --> 02:32:43,070
had seven stories quietly told me in my

3483
02:32:49,091 --> 02:32:46,370
travels attorney on about planes going

3484
02:32:52,930 --> 02:32:49,101
up to chase UFOs and never coming back

3485
02:32:57,910 --> 02:32:52,940
and the government want to admit this of

3486
02:33:01,001 --> 02:32:57,920
course we've lost pilots goodbye if we

3487
02:33:03,131 --> 02:33:01,011
got the facts put out on the table a

3488
02:33:05,051 --> 02:33:03,141
little bit they finally did this with

3489
02:33:07,261 --> 02:33:05,061
regard to there's a book called by any

3490
02:33:10,150 --> 02:33:07,271
means necessary by William Burroughs

3491
02:33:13,480 --> 02:33:10,160
describing a hundred sixty six military

3492
02:33:16,150 --> 02:33:13,490
crewmen who were onboard reconnaissance

3493
02:33:18,791 --> 02:33:16,160
airplanes that were tickling the radars

3494
02:33:21,461 --> 02:33:18,801
of North Korea Russia and China in the

3495
02:33:23,620 --> 02:33:21,471
late 40s mostly in the 50s and those

3496
02:33:25,150 --> 02:33:23,630
planes were destroyed by the Russians we

3497
02:33:26,230 --> 02:33:25,160
destroyed some of theirs too we're doing

3498
02:33:28,270 --> 02:33:26,240
the same thing come in the other

3499
02:33:32,770 --> 02:33:28,280
direction none of the families were told

3500
02:33:35,110 --> 02:33:32,780
what was going on until 2001 more than

3501
02:33:37,240 --> 02:33:35,120
50 years for some of those families when

3502
02:33:38,860 --> 02:33:37,250
they were gathered together and they

3503
02:33:43,719 --> 02:33:38,870
were given the medals there

3504
02:33:45,550 --> 02:33:43,729
sons brothers fathers said earned one

3505
02:33:47,889 --> 02:33:45,560
we're in the public about this so if

3506
02:33:51,280 --> 02:33:47,899
somebody like the Washington Post were

3507
02:33:52,719 --> 02:33:51,290
to make the effort instead and having to

3508
02:33:54,520 --> 02:33:52,729
admit that they'd ignored the biggest

3509
02:33:56,770 --> 02:33:54,530
story of the millennium for the last 60

3510
02:33:59,620 --> 02:33:56,780
some years I think it could be done in

3511
02:34:01,420 --> 02:33:59,630
six months and along the way I mean the

3512
02:34:04,090 --> 02:34:01,430
world didn't fall apart when Watergate

3513
02:34:08,560 --> 02:34:04,100
came out did it I don't think so or

3514
02:34:11,230 --> 02:34:08,570
Monica Lewinsky yeah you know that was

3515
02:34:13,929 --> 02:34:11,240
worldwide effort money when Monica

3516
02:34:16,480 --> 02:34:13,939
Lewinsky came along we already knew that

3517
02:34:17,920 --> 02:34:16,490
presidents sometimes stray you know we

3518
02:34:20,349 --> 02:34:17,930
already have the evidence of John

3519
02:34:21,219 --> 02:34:20,359
Kennedy that Lyndon Johnson was a pretty

3520
02:34:23,830 --> 02:34:21,229
wild guy too

3521
02:34:26,860 --> 02:34:23,840
yeah so my point is the world didn't end

3522
02:34:27,910 --> 02:34:26,870
and we all didn't fly off I think this

3523
02:34:30,639 --> 02:34:27,920
kind of goes back to the previous

3524
02:34:32,950 --> 02:34:30,649
conversation about about disclosure and

3525
02:34:34,810 --> 02:34:32,960
certainly the government has quite a bit

3526
02:34:38,170 --> 02:34:34,820
more data and if they'd only fess up and

3527
02:34:40,389 --> 02:34:38,180
if we could get you know the the media

3528
02:34:42,790 --> 02:34:40,399
the fifth state to marshal their

3529
02:34:44,740 --> 02:34:42,800
resources to get involved and you know

3530
02:34:46,150 --> 02:34:44,750
that you're right I mean it could be as

3531
02:34:47,500 --> 02:34:46,160
little as six months especially with

3532
02:34:49,840 --> 02:34:47,510
with people coming forward especially

3533
02:34:52,450 --> 02:34:49,850
with some sort of amnesty put in place

3534
02:34:54,429 --> 02:34:52,460
will be an interesting subject and maybe

3535
02:34:56,440 --> 02:34:54,439
more on disclosure can be discussed in

3536
02:34:58,150 --> 02:34:56,450
future episodes of the podcast Stan

3537
02:35:00,639 --> 02:34:58,160
Gunny books coming out lecture tours

3538
02:35:03,130 --> 02:35:00,649
things we can check out got all kinds of

3539
02:35:04,780 --> 02:35:03,140
lectures coming up Saudi Arabia I don't

3540
02:35:07,150 --> 02:35:04,790
think many listeners will be attending

3541
02:35:10,510 --> 02:35:07,160
that one that 4,000 bucks admission to

3542
02:35:14,849 --> 02:35:10,520
the conference but on in Atlanta the

3543
02:35:18,040 --> 02:35:14,859
truth conference on February 4th and 5th

3544
02:35:21,940 --> 02:35:18,050
I'll be speaking there I'll be speaking

3545
02:35:24,490 --> 02:35:21,950
at international UFO Congress which is

3546
02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:24,500
moved from Laughlin Nevada to right next

3547
02:35:29,500 --> 02:35:27,290
to you guys as a matter of fact a yard

3548
02:35:32,200 --> 02:35:29,510
so we're gonna have dinner that day Stan

3549
02:35:33,910 --> 02:35:32,210
you're invited oh okay

3550
02:35:37,840 --> 02:35:33,920
and I expect a lot of people will be

3551
02:35:40,510 --> 02:35:37,850
there and I'll be speaking at the UFO

3552
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:40,520
conference and late March in Lawrence

3553
02:35:44,860 --> 02:35:42,770
Kansas don't ask me to explain that

3554
02:35:48,420 --> 02:35:44,870
title learn I don't know what it means

3555
02:35:53,130 --> 02:35:48,430
but I'll be in Roswell of course

3556
02:35:58,020 --> 02:35:53,140
in first week in July I'll be at MUFON

3557
02:36:01,350 --> 02:35:58,030
Pennsylvania October 22nd I guess it is

3558
02:36:04,801 --> 02:36:01,360
in Burlington Wisconsin the last week in

3559
02:36:08,250 --> 02:36:04,811
October at the the Burlington vortex

3560
02:36:09,690 --> 02:36:08,260
conference I think that covers it and

3561
02:36:11,460 --> 02:36:09,700
you can check what Stanton Friedman

3562
02:36:14,160 --> 02:36:11,470
dot-com to find more of what you're

3563
02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:14,170
doing yeah yeah list all the books which

3564
02:36:17,940 --> 02:36:16,210
would get autographed for me and Amazon

3565
02:36:20,280 --> 02:36:17,950
doesn't send you autographed copies of

3566
02:36:22,051 --> 02:36:20,290
my book that's to their detriment but if

3567
02:36:23,700 --> 02:36:22,061
you order it direct from Stan also

3568
02:36:25,020 --> 02:36:23,710
Stan makes a few more pennies on the

3569
02:36:26,940 --> 02:36:25,030
book you want to do that you're right

3570
02:36:28,801 --> 02:36:26,950
Chris O'Brien orderly find more of your

3571
02:36:32,130 --> 02:36:28,811
stuff well I do have a website our

3572
02:36:34,051 --> 02:36:32,140
strange planet and calm and you can get

3573
02:36:36,511 --> 02:36:34,061
signed autographed copies of my books

3574
02:36:38,670 --> 02:36:36,521
there and also keep up to speed on the

3575
02:36:41,790 --> 02:36:38,680
San Luis Valley camera surveillance

3576
02:36:44,460 --> 02:36:41,800
project and other interesting projects

3577
02:36:46,770 --> 02:36:44,470
that I'm involved with and I want to say

3578
02:36:48,060 --> 02:36:46,780
again thank you so much Stan for coming

3579
02:36:51,091 --> 02:36:48,070
on the show this has been a an

3580
02:36:53,720 --> 02:36:51,101
enlightening two hours as as usual and

3581
02:36:55,770 --> 02:36:53,730
we look forward to having you back and

3582
02:37:03,650 --> 02:36:55,780
talking about some of the other subjects

3583
02:37:08,430 --> 02:37:06,030
Paris's calendar the presentation of

3584
02:37:10,761 --> 02:37:08,440
making the impossible incorporated tune